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Neuronetics, Inc. (NASDAQ:STIM) Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call March 7, 2023 8:30 AM ET

Company Participants

Mark Klausner - ICR Westwicke

Keith Sullivan - President and Chief Executive Officer

Steve Furlong - Chief Financial Officer

Conference Call Participants

Bill Plovanic - Canaccord

Adam Maeder - Piper Sandler

Margaret Kaczor - William Blair

Daniel Stauder - JMP Securities

Operator

Good time and invited to nan Neuronetics Fourth Quarter and Full-Year 2022 Conference Call. At this time, each participants are successful listen-only mode. After nan speakers' presentation, location will beryllium a question-and-answer session. Instructions will beryllium fixed astatine that time. As a reminder, this telephone is being recorded.

I would for illustration to manus nan convention complete to Mark Klausner. You whitethorn begin.

Mark Klausner

Good greeting and convey you for joining america for nan Neuronetics 4th fourth and full-year 2022 convention call. Joining maine connected today's telephone are Neuronetics President and Chief Executive Officer, Keith Sullivan; and Chief Financial Officer, Steve Furlong.

Before we begin, I would for illustration to be aware listeners that definite accusation discussed by guidance during this convention telephone will see forward-looking statements covered nether nan safe harbor provisions of nan Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements related to our business, strategy, financial and gross guidance, nan effect of COVID-19 and different operational issues and metrics.

Actual results tin disagree materially from those stated aliases implied by these forward-looking statements owed to risks and uncertainties associated pinch nan company's business. For a chat of risks and uncertainties associated pinch Neuronetics business, I promote you to reappraisal nan company's filings pinch nan Securities and Exchange Commission, including nan company's yearly study connected Form 10-K, which will beryllium revenge later today. The institution disclaims immoderate responsibility to update immoderate forward-looking statements made during nan people of this call, isolated from arsenic required by law.

During nan call, we'll besides talk definite accusation connected a non-GAAP basis, including EBITDA. Management believes that non-GAAP financial accusation taken successful conjunction pinch U.S. GAAP financial measures supply useful accusation for some guidance and investors by excluding definite non-cash and different expenses that are not suggestive of trends in our operating results.

Management uses non-GAAP financial measures to comparison our capacity comparative to forecast and strategical plans to benchmark our capacity externally against competitors and for definite compensation decisions. Reconciliations betwixt U.S. GAAP and non-GAAP results are presented successful nan tables accompanying our property release, which tin beryllium viewed connected our website.

With that, it's my pleasance to move nan telephone complete to Neuronetics' President and Chief Executive Officer, Keith Sullivan.

Keith Sullivan

Thank you, Mark. Good greeting and convey you for joining us. I'll statesman by providing an overview of our caller capacity followed by an operational update. Steve will past reappraisal our financial results and I'll reason pinch immoderate thoughts connected 2023 earlier turning to Q&A.

We are pleased pinch our capacity passim 2022, a twelvemonth which included respective grounds quarters and nan achievements of cardinal milestones. We shipped complete 210 systems to customers, bringing full systems shipped each clip to complete 2,000. In addition, our efforts to thrust accrued curen convention utilization has continued to salary off. As of nan extremity of nan year, nan number of all-time curen sessions surpassed $5.3 million. Across astir 145,000 patients. This each contributed to nan full gross maturation of 18% for 2022.

Proof that nan investments made complete nan past 2 years successful marketing, believe development, and diligent acquisition initiatives are working. I'm very proud of everything that we person accomplished successful 2022, which we capped disconnected by a beardown 4th quarter. And I'd for illustration to convey our employees, who delivered this precocious level of occurrence by measurement of their difficult activity passim nan year.

For nan 4th quarter, full gross was $18.2 million, up 21% complete nan 4th fourth of 2021. The beardown capacity was chiefly driven by grounds curen convention revenue, arsenic good arsenic continued superior instrumentality income growth. As we've seen our programs and initiatives return root. NeuroStar strategy gross was $4.6 million, up 64% complete nan 4th fourth of 2021. The occurrence is owed to nan ongoing difficult activity of our beardown squad of area income managers. Who recovered their group successful nurturing and converting a robust pipeline, which was strengthened by yet different sold retired NeuroStar Summit.

The U.S. curen convention gross was an all-time grounds of $12.5 million, up 11% complete nan 4th fourth of 2021. This grounds gross was nan consequence of affirmative maturation astatine nan section per click sites and was accomplished, contempt slower than anticipated maturation astatine our largest work supplier arsenic they activity their measurement done merger integration. Our complete occurrence was driven by our investments successful 5 Star's training program. The description of our PHQ-10 instrumentality into much offices and greater readiness of believe guidance training.

Now turning to our operational highlights. Our first attraction area is expanding customer and diligent awareness. We erstwhile again had a wholly sold retired NeuroStar Summit successful Chicago, attended by 50 participants from 38 different practices. This arena received outstanding feedback, which led to nan conversion of respective high-quality customers and nan maturation of our pipeline. The NeuroStar Summit person proven to beryllium nan number 1 arena for educating and partnering pinch caller TMS practices. Our area income managers person done an fantabulous occupation helping these imaginable customers spot nan benefits NeuroStar tin bring to them and their patients.

The implementation of our proprietary PHQ-10 integer appraisal tool, which allows our NeuroStar practices to easy place patients wrong their practice, who are candidates for and person expressed liking successful a NeuroStar curen has been highly fruitful. We collected 98,000 PHQ-10s successful 2022. And we will proceed to heighten this instrumentality to see caller features wrong TrackStar to amended negociate and place patients, who are candidates for NeuroStar treatment.

Our NeuroStar University successful Charlotte, North Carolina continues to person fantabulous reviews from our customers. By year-end, we had hosted 8 afloat capacity classes pinch attendees representing 75 accounts. And we now person a lengthy waiting database arsenic we proceed to germinate nan capabilities of nan platform, arsenic good arsenic nan support services that we connection our customers, these classes will proceed to beryllium highly beneficial for some nan caller and existing users arsenic we activity to leverage nan powerfulness of NeuroStar to thief much patients suffer incremental disorders. We person begun to spot affirmative benefits linked straight to nan NSU training classes, specified arsenic nan summation of 23% successful curen convention utilization and an summation successful PHQ-10 utilization from these NSU attendees.

Our 2nd attraction area is nan continued optimization of our commercialized organization. In nan quarter, we started to spot immoderate benefits from nan efficiencies gained from our recently implemented salesforce reporting tools, which thief our PDMs amended understand our customers, their diligent guidelines and utilization trends. These devices let nan PDMs to thief our relationship group goals and measurement their advancement towards achieving them. In particular, allowing accounts to much efficiently and much efficaciously place and dainty group successful need. From wrong their ain existing diligent base.

As planned, we hired 4 further PDMs earlier this year, owed to nan caller relationship maturation complete nan people of 2022. These additions will support nan maturation of our installed guidelines and guarantee we supply our customers pinch nan highest level of work and support. Our 3rd area of attraction is leveraging exclusive commercialized partnerships. We precocious announced an expanded commercialized business pinch Greenbrook TMS, which runs done year-end 2028. Under nan agreement, we will beryllium nan exclusive supplier of TMS instrumentality to Greenbrook. With each different TMS devices being replaced pinch NeuroStars arsenic their existing leases expire. This grow business will present respective important synergies, including co-branding and co-marketing opportunities; enhanced diligent and objective awareness; improved diligent entree to care; and a collaboration connected merchandise improvement and publication.

Importantly, this statement converts nan full Greenbrook organization, including Success GMS to our consumable pricing exemplary and distant from a fixed value one. We will connection our afloat spectrum of support and programs to Greenbrook centers and practitioners. In particular, we will connection tailored NSU classes and merge our PHQ-10s and TrackStar to thief Greenbrook scope and dainty patients much effectively.

With nan thief of this agreement, Neuronetics and Greenbrook will beryllium capable to make NeuroStar Advanced Therapy for Mental Health accessible to a increasing number of people, who are struggling pinch intelligence illness. While we are enthusiastic astir nan semipermanent business pinch Greenbrook, and our expertise to thief them thrust accrued diligent measurement successful their centers. I did want to item that we person continued to spot disruption resulting from nan merger of Greenbrook and Success and nan consequent integration of nan 2 businesses. As Steve will mention later, erstwhile he provides our guidance, we expect immoderate gross headwinds successful 2023 arsenic they proceed to activity done combining their companies.

Lastly, I want to supply an update pinch our objective and regulatory progress. In January, we announced a adjacent reviewed publication, which shows NeuroStar TMS arsenic an effective non-drug curen for slump pinch comorbid anxiety. Significant worry symptoms are coming successful nan immense mostly of depressed individuals and nan mostly of patients pinch worry disorders besides person associated depression. We were capable to study existent results and found nan effectiveness of this important therapy action for patients pinch anxious depression. Thanks to nan spot of TrakStar and nan largest objective information group for TMS successful depression.

Now for a speedy update connected nan expanded medicare coverage. In February, NGS updated their healthcare policy, allowing caregiver practitioners and expert assistants, who are wrong their scope of believe to bid and supply TMS treatments to their patients pinch awesome depressive disorder. This is simply a invited alteration arsenic we person ever recognized nan value of psychiatric caregiver practitioners successful delivering intelligence wellness care. This is particularly existent now fixed nan shortage of healthcare professionals.

In addition, United Health Care precocious announced a affirmative sum change, which expands entree to NeuroStar therapy. Optum, nan behavioral wellness use head for United, reduced nan number of anterior medicine failures for TMS eligibility from 4 down to 2 and region nan request for a proceedings of evidence-based psychotherapy. As nan largest healthcare insurer successful nan state covering 23.8 cardinal lives United Health Care's Optum's determination to make NeuroStar much easy accessible and make a existent quality successful helping to alleviate nan load of supplier resistant depression. To proceed to supply greater entree to NeuroStar therapy, we precocious expanded our reimbursement team. This larger squad will beryllium capable to summation our defense efforts related to favorable wellness policies and supply our customers pinch best-in-class reimbursement and billing support.

In closing, I'd for illustration to definitive my gratitude to our squad for their dedication and perseverance successful navigating nan challenges of nan existent operating situation pinch ease. This difficult activity has enabled america to successfully execute connected each initiatives during nan twelvemonth and bring alleviation to patients suffering from depression. Looking up to 2023, we expect that nan momentum we person built will proceed to turn arsenic we build connected nan coagulated instauration we person laid passim 2022.

With that, I'd for illustration to move nan telephone complete to Steve.

Steve Furlong

Thank you, Keith. Total gross for nan 4th fourth was $18.2 million, an summation of 21% complete 4th fourth 2021 gross of $15 million. U.S. NeuroStar Advanced Therapy System gross was $4.6 million, compared to nan anterior twelvemonth gross of $2.8 cardinal it was up 64%. The institution shipped 58 systems successful Q4, up from 48 systems shipped successful nan 4th fourth of 2021.

U.S. Treatment convention gross was $12.5 million, an summation of 11% complete 4th fourth 2021 gross of $11.2 million. The gross maturation was chiefly driven by an summation successful utilization, successful peculiar among our section per click customer segment.

In nan 4th fourth of 2022 gross per progressive tract was astir $11,500, compared to astir $12,200 successful nan anterior twelvemonth quarter. Excluding Greenbrook and Success, gross per progressive tract was accordant year-over-year, contempt having added astir 100 caller progressive sites during nan year.

Gross margins were 76% accordant pinch nan 4th fourth of 2021. Operating expenses during nan 4th were $21.5 million, an summation of $3.1 million, compared to nan 4th fourth of 2021. The summation was chiefly driven by our expanded income unit nan opening of NSU, higher-than-expected income commissions, incremental headcount and merchandise development, investments successful clinical, arsenic good arsenic accrued costs from inflationary pressures.

During nan quarter, we incurred astir $2.1 cardinal of non-cash stock-based compensation expense. Net nonaccomplishment for nan 4th fourth of 2022 was $8.3 cardinal aliases $0.31 per share, arsenic compared to a nett nonaccomplishment of $7.6 cardinal aliases $0.29 per stock during nan 4th fourth of 2021.

EBITDA for nan 4th fourth of 2022 was antagonistic $6.5 million, arsenic compared to antagonistic $6.3 cardinal for nan 4th fourth of 2021. As of December 31, 2022, rate and rate equivalents were $70.3 million. We proceed to activity pinch our lender SLR Capital Partners connected an updated in installments facility. We are connected way to adjacent connected this caller installation successful March 2023.

Now turning to guidance. For nan full-year 2023, we expect gross successful nan scope of $66 cardinal to $72 million. As Keith mentioned our guidance for 2023 assumes little curen convention gross from definite work providers, but continued spot from our section per click customers. For nan first 4th of 2023, we expect gross of $15 cardinal to $16 million. We expect full operating expenses for nan full-year 2023 to beryllium successful nan scope of $84 cardinal to $88 million.

For nan full-year, we expect rate utilization from operations to alteration year-over-year. Cash utilization will beryllium nan highest during nan first 4th arsenic it includes our nationalist income meeting, arsenic good arsenic anterior twelvemonth prize payments; income commissions and retention costs. Our operating scheme continues to show that we will execute rate travel breakeven pinch rate connected hand. Our way to profitability is still connected track, acknowledgment to our projections for apical statement growth, coagulated gross separator floor plan and nan observant guidance of our operating expenses.

I would now for illustration to move nan telephone backmost complete to Keith.

Keith Sullivan

Thank you, Steve. 2022 was a captious twelvemonth for Neuronetics arsenic we proceed to thrust nan accelerated take of NeuroStar. We person shown that nan objective results are superior. We person made important investments successful building nan latest and astir talented commercialized squad successful nan business. We person demonstrated unmatched expertise to support our practices by assisting them pinch diligent acquisition and consciousness campaigns to beforehand semipermanent success.

To proceed that success, we will attraction connected a number of cardinal initiatives during 2023. One, expanding nan number of customers, who participate successful NeuroStar University. Two, moving to incorporated a precocious percent of customers into co-op marketing. Three, creating a web of accounts crossed nan state that travel NeuroStar champion practices. Beginning pinch accrued customer information successful NeuroStar University, arsenic nan first cohort of customers has gone done training astatine NSU, we person intelligibly seen nan contiguous affirmative benefits astatine these accounts, including amended PHQ-10 uptake and accrued curen convention utilization.

Because of this, we are moving to summation nan number of existing and prospective customers attending NSU classes, which supply important acquisition to nan providers to let them to present amended diligent outcomes. The classes are important arsenic we proceed to create NeuroStar capabilities and features specified arsenic our description into OCD, arsenic good arsenic nan preamble of D-Tect and nan MT Cap. Going forward, we are offering up to 2 classes per period passim nan twelvemonth and incorporating attendance costs into our co-op trading program.

Our 2nd attraction for 2023 is to incorporated a higher percent of our customers into our co-op trading program. There are complete 60 customers, who are presently utilizing nan benefits of our co-op trading programme connected a regular basis. The co-op trading programme is 1 of a benignant successful nan TMS industry. It provides america pinch an incremental opportunity to partner pinch our customers to thief support their business and supply patients pinch entree to attraction done accrued consciousness pinch co-branded, localized trading campaigns. Customers who person participated successful co-op trading programme person seen an mean summation of 4 patients per quarter. We will proceed to stress nan description of customer information passim nan twelvemonth to bring nan benefits of nan programme to much customers and their patients.

Turning to our 3rd and last attraction for 2023, creating a web of accounts crossed nan state that travel NeuroStar champion practices. Over nan past fewer years, our institution has made important finance successful nan statement and nan improvement of champion practices for each customer to marketplace efficaciously and thrust semipermanent growth. We would for illustration to return definite aspects of these proven practices to a broader web of our accounts. As we look up to 2023, we want to group definite standards crossed nan accounts we serve, specified arsenic offering consistently precocious levels of work and expanding diligent trading wrong their offices.

We expect to spot these standards successful customers, who afloat utilize nan characteristic of nan NeuroStar offering and our attack to nan market. We will proceed to travel our scheme successful 2023. We person done tremendous activity complete nan past 2 years to group ourselves up for success. And we person nan strategy successful spot to thrust nan accelerated take of NeuroStar and bring alleviation to much patients suffering from intelligence wellness disorders.

With that, I'd for illustration to unfastened nan statement for questions.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first mobility comes from Bill Plovanic pinch Canaccord. Your statement is open.

Bill Plovanic

Hey, great. Thanks. Good morning. So obviously, I deliberation nan biggest mobility is connected guidance and Greenbrook. One, what do you contemplate astatine nan low-end and high-end successful word -- really does that reflected pinch Greenbrook, benignant of, what percent of your revenues are they today? And what do you expect retired of that versus, benignant of, nan remainder of your business? Thanks.

Steve Furlong

Hey, Bill, this is Steve. Obviously, pinch nan property merchandise yesterday, we did person to scramble and set guidance. At this point, each we cognize is they do expect closing 50 stores pinch a 10% effect connected revenue, we don't cognize nan mix, we don't cognize which stores are NeuroStar, we don't cognize which percent of gross is Spravato versus TMS. And so, we took nan attack really based connected their contributions successful 2022 versus our expectations successful 2023 for growth. I deliberation we're successful a hold and spot mode astatine this point. So, you saw successful our K -- location -- well, you haven't seen an K yet, but you will, they're a small spot northbound of 20% of our business.

So, we judge nan $66 cardinal to $72 cardinal scope is due astatine this time. You tin besides spot we did grow nan scope successful gross from our emblematic $4 cardinal for nan twelvemonth to $6 million. Again, we conscionable request to spot really this plays retired done nan period of March and into nan early portion of Q2. Greenbrook announces nan extremity of March and possibly there'll beryllium immoderate much clarity into their plans and really it impacts us.

Bill Plovanic

Steve asked different way, what do you expect retired of your halfway business successful 2023? You’ve historically, if I look back, you grew 18% successful 2022 - 12% successful ‘21 and not moreover to spell retired of nan maturation arsenic we exited 2022 was retired of nan non-Greenbrook businesses. So, fixed that's 80% of your business, benignant of, what was nan contemplation of maturation retired of that halfway business arsenic you deliberation astir 2023? Thanks.

Steve Furlong

Yes. I deliberation it will beryllium accordant pinch what we saw successful nan second-half of 2022, truthful successful that 20% range. Again, if you look astatine our Q4 number 21% complete anterior year, that was negatively impacted by Greenbrook and Success's performance. So, nan per click consumable conception and immoderate of nan different segments are performing rather well. So again, I deliberation it will beryllium successful that 20% range.

Bill Plovanic

And past past connected this guidance mobility and past I'll jump backmost in. It's conscionable really do we deliberation about, benignant of, nan superior versus disposable particularly getting our hands astir for illustration nan assumptions astir apt fixed they're shutting down 50 centers they tin move superior astir really do we deliberation astir superior successful 2023 versus disposable? Thanks for taking my questions.

Steve Furlong

Sure, Bill. Yes, superior is going to beryllium accordant pinch 2022, truthful we've communicated betwixt 45 and 50 systems a year. We did somewhat much than that past twelvemonth and we expect that accordant level successful 2023. So, location won't beryllium an effect from nan Greenbrook integration efforts. We besides expect world revenues to beryllium flat, truthful each of nan maturation successful ‘23 will beryllium related to curen sessions.

Bill Plovanic

You mean 45 to 50 systems a quarter, not for nan full-year, correct?

Steve Furlong

Yes, quarter, yes.

Bill Plovanic

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our adjacent mobility comes from Adam Maeder pinch Piper Sandler. Your statement is open.

Adam Maeder

Hi, Keith. Hi, Steve. Thanks for taking nan questions here. Wanted to follow-up a small spot connected nan guidance statement of question. And I conjecture I'll inquire astir benignant of cadence. You evidently gave Q1 guidance possibly a hairsbreadth lighter-than-expected, but conscionable benignant of thief america deliberation through, benignant of, really you spot your business, benignant of, progressing complete nan year? Maybe we'll commencement location and past I person a follow-up aliases two. Thanks.

Steve Furlong

Thanks, Adam. Yes, if you look astatine our humanities capacity and I spell backmost to 2018, truthful nan twelvemonth anterior to IPO, our gross cadence by 4th is Q1 is 21% to 225 of yearly revenue. Q2 is astir 24% to 25%, Q3 25% to 26% and past Q4 is ever our strongest 4th astatine 28% to 29%. And truthful Q1, we ever person nan reset of deductibles, patients person to spell done and get their benefits investigations redone. And so, nan soul teams present person been processing astir 400 aliases truthful BIs a week and that's continued into early March. So that's really nan biggest unit connected Q1. But again, it's very emblematic for nan past 5 years.

Adam Maeder

Okay. I admit that color, Steve. And I conjecture conscionable 1 much connected nan guidance past I had a follow-up. But conscionable benignant of evidently a batch of attraction connected nan Greenbrook announcement yesterday and, benignant of, really that impacts you guys. But if we conscionable benignant of look backmost much broadly, it sounds for illustration you are very assured successful nan business ex-Greenbrook. So, I conjecture 1 mobility I person conscionable connected nan macro is really are you reasoning astir this twelvemonth 2023 successful a imaginable recessionary environment. Has thing factored into nan guidance there? Are you allowing for immoderate further conservatism? Just benignant of possibly locomotion done nan accuracy connected nan outlook?

Steve Furlong

Yes. I mean, location is -- location are nary recessionary impacts successful our guidance, I'm judge you remember, Adam, astatine your convention successful New York that I communicated we were comfortable pinch wherever nan statement was for nan twelvemonth and that was successful that $73 cardinal range. We were besides anticipating mid to high-teen maturation year-over-year. Again, nan Greenbrook property merchandise yesterday was a small spot surprising, and truthful I deliberation we request conscionable immoderate clip to activity done nan impact. Otherwise, you saw capacity successful Q3 and Q4. Even with, I would say, nary to slow maturation from them, we were still astatine that 20% level. And I deliberation we're assured that we'll beryllium capable to support that successful nan different segments.

Adam Maeder

Okay.

Keith Sullivan

Yes, Adam, this is Keith. From a trading standpoint, we person been moving intimately complete nan past mates of months pinch nan Greenbrook team. Putting together a scheme connected really they would be NSU, really they would marketplace wrong their practices, really we would thief them get PHQ-10s in, truthful location was immoderate hints of nan closing of nan stores. But I judge that we person put together a coagulated scheme pinch Bill and his squad to spot if we tin return nan remaining stores and get them backmost up to their anterior work levels.

Adam Maeder

Okay. Appreciate nan colour guys. And 1 past 1 if I may, conscionable connected immoderate of nan payer changes, expanded Medicare sum and nan United News from this week streamlining therapy, possibly just, benignant of, really do you deliberation astir nan effect from those developments? Is this thing that tin effect nan business near-term? Or do you deliberation we request respective quarters to, benignant of, spot immoderate tailwind yet materialize? Thanks again for taking nan questions.

Steve Furlong

So, Adam, connected nan reimbursement side, I deliberation pinch United Health Care dropping from 4 to two, it is simply a awesome sign. Many of nan different payers travel what United Health Care does. As precocious arsenic past fall, Aetna went from 2 to four, because that's wherever UnitedHealthcare was. So, I -- we are hoping that nan different payers driblet their requirements to and travel United Health Care's lead. Quite honestly, location are plentifulness of patients retired location that person grounded 4 drugs, truthful we're not successful a -- there's nary shortage it does grow nan marketplace erstwhile we driblet it down to two. And I deliberation our dream now is that United and nan different payers make it easier to spell done nan anterior authorization process, truthful it does grow our market, it does thief our patients now we request to thief our accounts pinch simplifying anterior authorization.

Operator

Thank you. Our adjacent mobility comes from Margaret Kaczor pinch William Blair. Your statement is open.

Margaret Kaczor

Hey, bully morning. Thanks for taking nan question.

Keith Sullivan

Hey, Margaret.

Margaret Kaczor

I'm going to chime successful pinch each my colleagues connected nan guidance side, truthful apologies for that. But I conjecture 1 more, it's benignant of a elemental one. I conjecture what gets you to nan precocious and nan low-end of nan range, because it's evidently rather broad. So, and much specifically, I guess, do you request Greenbrook to amended to get to that high-end of nan range? Or tin nan guidelines do that? And past benignant of a akin mobility connected nan low-end of that range?

Steve Furlong

No, I don't, Margaret, I deliberation we request immoderate publication from Greenbrook and based connected nan merchandise successful their gross haircut related to nan 50 stores, we don't request immoderate incremental maturation from Greenbrook to get to either 1 of those figures. So that should really beryllium nan maturation from nan different segments and would correspond that 20% target.

Margaret Kaczor

Okay. So sorry, yes, nan 20% maturation from nan different figures, I mean, again, it's a wider range, truthful is 20%, benignant of, nan midpoint of nan range. And past nan two, benignant of, precocious and low-end, you know, depending if nan guidelines is amended aliases if we're successful bully aliases amended aliases worse. Am I knowing that right?

Steve Furlong

Yes, I deliberation it represents nan midpoint.

Margaret Kaczor

Okay, perfect. And past I wanted to follow-up connected nan strategies, because you spent a batch of clip some astatine nan opening and nan extremity benignant of stepping done that successful 2022 and benignant of nan goals for 2023, PHQ-10, past a fews, et cetera. Is 2023 a twelvemonth wherever those efforts I conjecture tin standard connected a broader ground wherever you tin get possibly 2 times aliases 3 times aliases 20% of nan guidelines done those? Or is it conscionable benignant of much of a continuation pinch immoderate coagulated maturation and engagement?

Keith Sullivan

Thanks for nan question, Margaret. I deliberation if we look astatine nan NSU, we person seen nan accounts that travel done NSU adopt almost each of our programs connected a cosmopolitan basis. And arsenic a result, their business has gone up. So, I deliberation that we -- our attraction is to effort and get much of our accounts done nan NeuroStar University program. And I deliberation that we person seen our number of accounts that are utilizing nan PHQ-10s conscionable successful nan 4th fourth went from a small complete $300 cardinal to $450 million. So it is gaining traction, truthful I deliberation 2023 is going to beryllium a standout twelvemonth for it. And I deliberation that we tin expect immoderate that, that is going to beryllium what's going to thief america thrust nan growth.

Margaret Kaczor

Okay, great. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our adjacent mobility comes from Daniel Stauder pinch JMP Securities. Your statement is open.

Daniel Stauder

Yes. Hi, thanks. Just rubbing backmost connected nan erstwhile questions surrounding nan sum argumentation updates. You mentioned this creates a larger chimney of patients and runs nan market, but do you consciousness that nan sum criteria has been a gating facet for take successful nan past?

Keith Sullivan

I deliberation what slows down our implementation wrong a believe is getting physicians credential and onto nan security programs, truthful that's nan number 1 factor. Number 2 is getting nan reimbursement really paid and nan struggle that we person is that each azygous diligent has to spell done a anterior authorization process pinch immoderate of nan payers it's elemental pinch different payers. They rejected retired of manus and past you’ll person to do an appeal. Typically, they o.k. nan entreaty if nan diligent has met each nan criteria. So yes, it is simply a gating facet here. But rather honestly, I deliberation pinch nan moves successful Medicare and now United Health Care starring nan way, I deliberation we're encouraged that they are yet recognizing that they request to make nan entree to attraction simpler.

Daniel Stauder

Great. And past conscionable 1 follow-up for me. You've called retired higher utilization successful your per click conception arsenic a driver of curen convention revenues for a fewer quarters here, I deliberation double digit for nan past 2 quarters. But you’ve highlighted immoderate of your initiatives that are driving this. But if you could constituent to 1 aliases 2 aspects that's really leaving nan complaint here, what would those beryllium and past what could this look for illustration successful 2023? Thank you.

Keith Sullivan

So, I deliberation nan mates of points that thief thrust that utilization. Number 1 is our believe improvement managers. We person invested heavy into a squad of group correct now we person 47 of them that are each relationship is assigned to 1 of our believe improvement managers and each 1 of those managers is responsible to make awareness, acquisition and thief seizure those patients wrong nan believe and amended their unit from nan beforehand table to nan treater connected precisely really to do that education.

So I deliberation our believe improvement managers are nan extremity of nan spear for america and they're nan ones that are deploying nan PHQ-10s successful nan practice, who are doing nan 5 Stars to Success, which is simply a axenic acquisition astatine various levels wrong nan practice, including marketing. So, I deliberation those are really our driving force. We trust heavy connected our believe improvement managers and now NeuroStar University to thief amended nan accounts.

Daniel Stauder

Great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. Our adjacent mobility is simply a follow-up Bill Plovanic pinch Canaccord. Your statement is open.

Bill Plovanic

Great, thanks. Just to inquire nan mobility again connected nan Greenbrook, I mean, arsenic I reread nan announcement, while they're shutting down a batch of centers, they opportunity that it's only a small complete 10% of nan revenues. And if I do backmost nan napkin mathematics conscionable based connected immoderate of nan commentary, it sounds for illustration astatine nan low-end you're looking for Greenbrook down person to 25% to 30%, if you're assuming astatine nan midpoint nan remainder of your business is increasing 20%. Is that nan trends you're seeing successful nan business coming astatine Greenbrook? Or fixed nan newness of nan information, you're benignant of -- nan low-end of nan guidance is almost assuming a worst lawsuit script conscionable because you don't person a batch of accusation upon which to make that determination today?

Keith Sullivan

So, Bill, we show nan utilization connected each segments of our accounts each azygous week. And Greenbrook’s utilization has decreased complete nan past 5 months, which I deliberation arsenic we've said earlier and they person said, I deliberation it's expected that location would beryllium immoderate disruption. But we saw a important magnitude of diminution successful their maturation successful Q4 and we were capable to turn successful spite of it. I deliberation that if we are capable to deploy nan trainings and nan acquisition that we are doing pinch nan remainder of our accounts into Greenbrook, which I deliberation Bill is very, very supportive of america moving person together to get that done. I deliberation we tin thief them get backmost connected track. But we did spot nan diminution successful nan 3rd and nan 4th quarter.

Bill Plovanic

Okay. And past conscionable clarity connected nan effect of nan NGS starting connected April 1, getting nan caregiver practitioners to bid and treat. How important aliases important is that?

Keith Sullivan

It's a awesome question. So, we person been looking state-by-state, payer-by-payer astatine nan opportunity that's retired location pinch caregiver practitioners. Some of nan states have, opportunity that caregiver practitioners person afloat authority if they person been nether nan guidance of a psychiatrist for 5 years. During nan pandemic, Virginia arsenic an illustration lowered nan request nether a psychiatrist to 2 years. But they person since reversed that and gone backmost to five. So, location are areas of nan state wherever caregiver practitioners are allowed to diagnose nan patient, to do nan centrifugal period and to treat. And we are opening nan process of identifying what areas that is and past really we're going to amended those caregiver practitioners connected nan opportunity to thief their patients.

Bill Plovanic

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Keith Sullivan

Thanks, Bill.

Operator

Thank you. There are nary further questions astatine this time. I'd for illustration to move nan telephone backmost complete to Keith Sullivan for closing remarks.

Keith Sullivan

Thank you again for joining america today. We look guardant to updating you connected our adjacent quarterly call. Thank you all.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does reason nan program. You whitethorn now disconnect. Everyone, person a awesome day.

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