Iridium Communications Inc. (IRDM) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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Iridium Communications Inc. (NASDAQ:IRDM)

Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call

February 16, 2023, 08:30 AM ET

Company Participants

Matthew Desch - CEO

Thomas Fitzpatrick - CFO and Chief Administrative Officer

Kenneth Levy - VP, IR

Conference Call Participants

Ric Prentiss - Raymond James

Landon Park - Morgan Stanley

Walter Piecyk - LightShed

Mathieu Robilliard - Barclays

Louie DiPalma - William Blair

Hamed Khorsand - BWS Financial

Chris Quilty - Quilty Analytics

Operator

Good day, and invited to nan Iridium Communications Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will beryllium successful listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. After today's presentation, location will beryllium an opportunity to inquire questions. [Operator Instructions]. Please statement this arena is being recorded.

I would now for illustration to move nan convention complete to Kenneth Levy, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please spell ahead.

Kenneth Levy

Thank you, David. Good morning, and invited to Iridium's 4th fourth 2022 net call. Joining maine connected today's telephone are our CEO, Matt Desch; and our CFO, Tom Fitzpatrick. Today's telephone will statesman pinch a chat of our 4th fourth results followed by Q&A. I spot you've had an opportunity to reappraisal this morning's net release, which is disposable connected nan Investor Relations conception of Iridium's Web site.

Before I move things complete to Matt, I'd for illustration to be aware each participants that our telephone whitethorn incorporate forward-looking statements wrong nan meaning of nan Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are statements that are not humanities truth and see statements astir our early expectations, plans and prospects. Such forward-looking statements are based upon our existent beliefs and expectations and are taxable to risks, which could origin existent results to disagree from forward-looking statements. Such risks are much afloat discussed successful our filings pinch nan Securities and Exchange Commission. Our remarks today should beryllium considered successful ray of specified risks. Any forward-looking statements correspond our views only arsenic of today, and while we whitethorn elite to update forward-looking statements astatine immoderate constituent successful nan future, we specifically disclaim immoderate responsibility to do truthful moreover if our views or expectations change.

During nan call, we'll besides beryllium referring to definite non-GAAP financial measures, including operational EBITDA, pro forma free rate flow, free rate travel output and free rate travel conversion. These non-GAAP financial measures are not prepared successful accordance pinch mostly accepted accounting principles. Please mention to today's net merchandise and nan Investor Relations conception of our Web tract for further mentation of these non-GAAP financial measures arsenic good arsenic a reconciliation to nan astir straight comparable GAAP measures.

With that, fto maine move things complete to Matt.

Matthew Desch

Thanks, Ken. Good morning, everyone. Well arsenic you saw from our merchandise this morning, we vanished retired 2022 moreover amended than expected and are forecasting different beardown twelvemonth of maturation successful 2023. By each measures, 2022 was an astonishing year. We grew successful each facet of our business from work gross to instrumentality and engineering to subscriber count.

We added caller business partners, launched breathtaking caller services and welcomed a number of caller partner products. We besides invested successful caller group and systems to support nan galore opportunities we spot and present an moreover amended acquisition for our customers.

I’m proud to stock that Iridium eclipsed 2 cardinal progressive subscribers soon aft we entered nan caller year. In fact, arsenic of today, we already person almost 20,000 much than that. This was a large milestone for us. It took america 18 years to get nan first cardinal successful 2018. So we're excited to spot nan acceleration successful caller years, peculiarly arsenic consumers and endeavor IoT customers person chosen our network.

To do this, Iridium relies connected its squad of almost 700 dedicated employees, to whom I would for illustration to opportunity convey you for your unwavering committedness to our customers, mission, firm values and vision. You are nan heartbeat of this company, and nan logic that we proceed to outperform moreover our ain precocious expectations.

I presume that we whitethorn person a larger assemblage than normal connected today's call. So pinch my remarks today, I want to supply a position connected our network, our existent business climate, and springiness immoderate penetration into nan stableness of Iridium’s business, including our priorities and nan maturation opportunities connected which we're now focused.

Iridium is unsocial among outer work providers. As a dedicated L-band work supplier operating successful debased Earth orbit, our constellation delivers resilient and reliable two-way real-time communications optimized for mini antennas and things arsenic good arsenic group successful vehicles connected nan move. Our web was an engineering marvel erstwhile it was launched successful nan precocious 90s, and it remains 1 today.

We've ever connected group wherever they are connected nan planet, starting pinch a azygous outer telephone model. But complete nan years, we've developed galore ways and recovered awesome exertion partners to make moreover much valuable and wide-ranging connections. This whitethorn beryllium why immoderate of you person joined our telephone this greeting and why Iridium is progressively nan taxable of media coverage, pinch nan impending rollout of outer to smartphone messaging and different consumer-focused applications now connected our partners’ drafting boards.

While nan existent business situation is characterized by rising liking rates and sustained inflation, we do not judge this ambiance will alteration Iridium’s operational plans aliases maturation trajectories. In fact, we're guiding to different beardown twelvemonth of work gross maturation successful 2023, which whitethorn moreover eclipse nan 9% we posted successful 2022.

Our business has shown singular stableness and maturation done a assortment of business conditions and economical cycles complete our history, arsenic we posted compounded yearly maturation rates of 9% successful work revenue, 10% successful operational EBITDA and 16% successful subscribers complete nan past 5 years alone. I in installments nan stableness of our maturation to nan diverseness of our customers, applications and industries we serve.

Iridium is often associated pinch information services and mobile applications. But we are truthful overmuch more. Our world constellation enables connection pinch nan astir distant regions connected nan satellite and supports mission-critical applications for customers connected land, oversea aliases successful nan air. With nan objection of our longstanding work statement pinch nan U.S. government, Iridium sells exclusively done a increasing web of astir 500 world business partners.

These companies scope from work resellers to value-added manufacturers and developers, each of whom leverage their heavy domain expertise to create caller products and applications that thrust connected our web to fulfill nan needs of their customers. This business exemplary has served america good complete our history.

Our partner guidelines is arsenic enthusiastic astir marketplace opportunities successful their early pinch america arsenic I've ever seen, and their heavy integration pinch our web is thing that a early competitor would find difficult to replicate. This contributes to nan competitory moat that surrounds our business and fuels continued invention to pull caller subscribers.

Each caller business partner, manufacture exertion and mission-critical work further fortifies our service-based exemplary and stretches nan usage cases of our network. Importantly, they besides present accordant recurring revenue, which has proven durable moreover successful nan look of changing economical conditions, earthy disasters, governmental disruptions, and different exogenous events.

In my 17 years starring Iridium, we've retained and grown our partner base. In fact, I don't callback america ever losing an independent partner to a competitor, which is beautiful astonishing erstwhile you deliberation astir it. And I deliberation that's suggestive of nan value of our services and nan characteristic of our capabilities. We person a patient increasing ecosystem of distribution and exertion partners.

As for Iridium's firm priorities, they halfway astir our committedness to our business partners, exertion invention and communities we touch successful our ongoing efforts to unlock caller business growth, each while delivering returns to shareholders. Innovation is simply a portion of our practice and successful our DNA. We person a history of investing alongside partners successful caller products and ways to link to our network, which they worth and will thrust caller business for them.

Products for illustration our scope of mini IoT modules and Iridium Edge statement of turnkey IoT solutions were spurred by feedback and sometimes moreover immoderate finance from our partners. Most recently, their feedback led to nan improvement of our caller Iridium GO! exec, which I'll talk astir shortly.

Another illustration of this symbiotic narration is our caller business pinch Qualcomm to present outer to smartphone connectivity. With this announcement, Iridium enters a wide caller opportunity abstraction acknowledgment to our beingness successful Qualcomm's powerful Snapdragon processors. We expect that this level will beryllium leveraged crossed a assortment of consumer-oriented devices.

In nan adjacent term, Qualcomm will beryllium making this exertion disposable done its web of premium Android smartphone manufacturers. However, we expect this aforesaid level will 1 time beryllium utilized successful a broader group of user devices, for illustration laptops, tablets, cars, and different vehicles to sanction conscionable a few.

Since our announcement successful early January, we've continued to spot a batch of excitement for this caller level by smartphone OEMs and smartphone applications to adopt our technology. Qualcomm tells america that nan first merchandise should deed nan marketplace successful nan 2nd half of this year, pinch much to travel successful 2024.

Now I cognize there's a batch of liking successful modeling nan financial effect of this caller incremental gross opportunity, but we'll request to hold for much of nan merchandise announcements to travel from smartphone OEMs and Android app providers successful nan future. We've mentioned that our revenues will travel from Snapdragon Satellite processors going into caller smartphones and further work revenues from exertion messaging.

Exact revenues will dangle connected really galore OEMs adopt a Snapdragon Satellite level and nan usage of this messaging capacity by users, which is limited connected really it's packaged and price, each things that we understand are actively being worked out. With nan constricted visibility we person coming into these matters, we conscionable can't forecast that for you astatine this time.

We judge that location are thing for illustration 80 cardinal to 100 cardinal high-end Snapdragon processors produced each twelvemonth by Qualcomm. And successful nan future, we dream request for outer connectivity will widen to their little extremity processors arsenic well, which is an moreover larger organization of devices. That's a batch of imaginable customers each year, and it's each incremental to our existent maturation plans.

As Tom will discuss, we'll beryllium spending a spot much successful CapEx successful nan adjacent fewer years to grow our systems and capabilities to support this caller service, but it isn't materially changing our wide CapEx vacation profile. As Iridium broadens its business partnerships and put successful caller exertion and infrastructure, we are besides mindful of our biology footprint, societal effect and our stewardship of space.

Our occurrence complete clip comes backmost to nan worth we spot successful our employees, nan communities successful which we operate, and nan initiatives that we support. We proceed to support STEM education, worth diverseness of thought and look arsenic we turn our master ranks, and are supporting section initiatives pinch our labor that are tangible and impactful to them and our partners.

In fact, Iridium has go sought retired arsenic a trusted partner by iconic brands for illustration nan Smithsonian Institution, National Geographic, nan National Zoo, and others. I peculiarly for illustration nan truth that we're moving pinch world organizations for illustration nan National Geographic Society wherever their employment of Iridium exertion for their exploration exertion laboratory enhances strategy functionality and hardware development.

This allows scientists, conservationists, and educators to widen nan scope of their activity to immoderate of nan astir utmost and inaccessible environments connected nan planet, whether it beryllium for oceanic exploration pinch afloat autonomous systems aliases taste practice sites. We're proud of nan support we supply and look guardant to building connected these relationships and extending our impact.

Turning to different of my favourite topics, growth. 2023 will beryllium different twelvemonth of work gross maturation successful maritime, land, mobile, aviation and IoT, which will make incremental free rate travel to support nan return of superior to our shareholders and ongoing deleveraging. In 2022, we delivered double digit gross maturation successful commercialized business and judge that nan momentum we person seen successful voice, IoT and broadband will proceed successful 2023.

While not our superior focus, engineering services person besides been increasing good and person strategical relevance successful supporting caller work development. As you know, our squad was awarded a sizable engineering statement pinch nan U.S. authorities Space Development Agency successful 2022. That statement has been going very well, pinch further follow-on opportunities now becoming visible that will align america further pinch our largest customer.

In position of caller products to thrust growth, we precocious completed our caller Iridium Messaging Transport, aliases IMT services we telephone it, which is our adjacent procreation IoT exertion for Iridium Certus terminals. It will trim improvement and work costs for our partners while being very businesslike successful nan usage of web resources. It’s now successful nan hands of our partners and is disposable for Iridium Certus 100 work and will rotation retired to our higher transmission services present successful nan first quarter, arsenic good arsenic successful nan caller narrowband IoT module, we're calling nan Iridium 9704, which is successful improvement now for 2024.

The different large merchandise announcement from 2 weeks agone is nan Iridium GO! exec, our latest procreation Wi-Fi hotspot merchandise for sound and information connections to smartphones and tablets of each types. It's built connected our caller Iridium Certus 100 technology, and it's been really good received by nan marketplace truthful far. It's a unsocial merchandise and should make bully ARPUs for our sound and information business. I promote you to cheque that out. It's a unsocial niche successful nan portable outer connectivity market, and I'm really excited astir its potential.

In closing, I americium very optimistic astir Iridium’s maturation trajectory. While we will stay successful our unsocial L-band lane, we proceed to broaden our scope to our target assemblage by attracting beardown partners to our ecosystem. This allows america to support exertion innovation, while widening our competitory moat. As Tom will soon describe, our financial position has besides improved arsenic we person successfully grown free rate flow, reduced leverage and returned superior to our shareholders complete nan past year.

Finally, I should item nan initiation of Iridium’s caller quarterly dividend programme successful December. This programme reflects nan improvement of our semipermanent superior plans. We've ever said that a dividend must beryllium sustainable done our adjacent superior cycle. Our Board's action to initiate this programme reflects our corporate appraisal of Iridium’s existent trends, business opportunities, and beardown free rate travel procreation into nan future.

We position superior distributions to shareholders arsenic an important portion of our superior strategy, and we'll proceed to usage a operation of stock repurchasing and dividends to execute this. On this topic, I'm pleased pinch Iridium’s banal capacity successful 2022. We were up 24% past twelvemonth compared to a diminution successful 14% successful nan Mid Cap Index, and we're disconnected to different bully commencement successful 2023.

This capacity reflects nan spot of our business model, our accordant execution and nan caller business opportunities connected which we're focused. Having precocious secured a venue and day for our Investor Day, we will person overmuch much to stock connected these topics erstwhile we meet pinch galore of you successful September.

So pinch that, fto maine move it complete to Tom. Tom?

Thomas Fitzpatrick

Thanks, Matt. Good morning, everyone. With my remarks today, I'd for illustration to recap Iridium’s afloat twelvemonth results for 2022 and supply immoderate position connected our capacity successful nan 4th quarter. We besides released our expectations for 2023 this morning, truthful I'd for illustration to locomotion done nan cardinal components of that guidance and supply further colour connected nan assumptions supporting our financial targets.

As Matt noted, Iridium performed highly good successful 2022. We exceeded our first gross and operational EBITDA guidance, added a number of notable partners and delivered different twelvemonth of beardown growth. The consistency of our business maturation reflects nan reliability of our services and nan mission-critical quality of our offering, which continues to differentiate america from competitors.

In 2022, we delivered double digit maturation successful subscribers, full gross and operational EBITDA. New statement wins, beardown request for instrumentality and recurring work each drove 17% apical statement growth, supporting 280 cardinal successful pro forma free rate travel during nan year. We proceed to spot beardown momentum successful our commercialized business pinch double digit maturation successful IoT, broadband arsenic good arsenic sound and data. As a result, operational EBITDA grew 12% successful 2022.

In nan 4th quarter, operational EBITDA roseate 15% from nan anterior year's 4th to 107 million, while full gross grew 24% from past year's comparable play to 194 million. On nan commercialized broadside of our business, we reported work gross of 110.3 cardinal successful nan 4th quarter, which was up 10% from a twelvemonth ago.

Revenue from commercialized sound and information roseate 10% from nan anterior twelvemonth period, reflecting an summation successful subscriber count. Many of nan trends that emerged earlier successful nan twelvemonth person remained tailwinds. We've continued to spot noticeable spot from our Push-To-Talk and Iridium GO! services arsenic good arsenic incremental request for handsets. We proceed to judge that our sound and information business will turn astatine a mid-single digit complaint connected mean for astatine slightest nan adjacent respective years.

In commercialized IoT, individual outer communications proceed to substance growth. Subscribers are up 21% from nan twelvemonth agone period. And successful 2022, we added complete 250,000 nett caller IoT subscribers. Our partners proceed to put successful caller retail-focused products to reside increasing request and we judge that this assemblage will stay a beardown driver of gross and subscribers arsenic caller midband capabilities rotation out. These opportunities supply america pinch nan tremendous runway for maturation pinch caller consumer-oriented applications.

In our broadband segment, we reported gross of 13.9 cardinal successful nan 4th quarter, up 22% from nan twelvemonth agone period. The maturation reflects nan occurrence we're having pinch Iridium Certus 200 and 700 arsenic entree to ships has returned to normal. New maritime activations continued to beryllium driven by nan take of Iridium Certus terminals, wherever they service arsenic a standalone solution for smaller vessels and are paired arsenic a companion to beryllium sat terminals connected larger ships.

We've besides benefited from upgrades by existing subscribers, who antecedently utilized our bequest Iridium OpenPort service. In all, commercialized subscribers grew 18% year-over-year pinch IoT representing 78% of nan full astatine year-end, up from 76% successful nan twelvemonth agone period. Revenue from hosted payload and different information work remained dependable astatine 14.7 cardinal successful nan 4th quarter.

Government work gross was besides unchangeable successful nan 4th fourth astatine 26.5 million, reflecting nan position of our EMSS statement pinch nan U.S. government. Subscriber equipment, which has enjoyed beardown request each twelvemonth long, roseate 102% successful nan 4th fourth from nan twelvemonth agone period, and was up 46% to a grounds 134.7 cardinal for nan afloat year. This maturation reflects nan summation successful usage of Iridium technology, our expanding ecosystem of partners arsenic good arsenic nan use of higher than normal handset sales.

Moving connected to our 2023 outlook, we forecast operational EBITDA successful a scope of 455 cardinal to 465 million, predicated connected full work gross maturation of betwixt 9% and 11%. The cardinal elements supporting this outlook are arsenic follows. We expect commercialized work gross to use from ongoing spot successful sound and data. Momentum successful IoT is forecast to proceed successful 2023, arsenic our accepted business IoT business and partner guidelines proceed to grow, and we do not spot a fto up successful user request for individual connection devices. These factors springiness america assurance successful forecasting different twelvemonth of double digit subscriber maturation successful IoT.

Broadband remains different agleam spot for our commercialized business. We expect that double digit subscriber and gross maturation will continue. In maritime, our partners person broadened their distribution and begun to leverage caller Iridium Certus 200 services successful terminals. Similar to past years, hosted payload will stay a dependable contributor to work gross astatine its contractual yearly complaint of astir 49 million.

Our U.S. authorities business will nutrient afloat twelvemonth gross of 106 cardinal successful 2023. This reflects nan contractual position of nan EMSS contract, which will support this complaint until precocious 2024. We expect that partner request for Iridium instrumentality will stay beardown successful 2023 and let america to support income successful statement pinch 2022’s grounds revenue. Our anticipation is for instrumentality separator percent successful nan mid 30s. This, however, will beryllium highly limited connected merchandise mix.

Briefly connected our precocious announced business pinch Qualcomm. The position of our agreements see gross to Iridium related to development, royalties, first work fees and usage. Over time, we expect that nan immense mostly of these revenues will beryllium included successful different information work gross line. Our guidance for work gross maturation betwixt 9% and 11% does not see a worldly publication from our Qualcomm relationship. Qualcomm is not expecting devices to debut until nan 2nd half of this year. And astatine this time, we person constricted visibility into nan amount of devices being delivered.

In 2023, engineering and support gross will again use from caller activity associated pinch nan Space Development Agency contract, which was awarded early past year. Contract activity pinch nan U.S. authorities tends to up and down from quarter-to-quarter. And while we do expect gross and workload related to nan FDA statement to summation successful 2023, it is difficult to constrictive this down to an meticulous quarterly tally rate. Remember that this statement is highly strategical for Iridium and aligns america pinch nan U.S. government's semipermanent abstraction priorities. The separator associated pinch this work, however, is little than for our different business lines.

Our EBITDA guidance incorporates a number of factors into expenses. First, we person considered nan effects of ostentation crossed our business lines and expect to walk materially much connected investigation and improvement and caller merchandise improvement initiatives this year. Next, we person accounted for nan effect of our hiring complete nan past 12 months arsenic good arsenic hired headcount successful SG&A functions.

While not affecting EBITDA, we expect our stock-based compensation disbursal to beryllium up this twelvemonth arsenic a consequence of retention grants issued successful 2022, nan effects of a larger workforce and nan accounting for capacity shares and nan status provisions of our banal plans. In all, these factors lead america to expect an astir 20% summation successful SG&A again this year.

Finally connected taxes, we proceed to forecast negligible rate taxes done 2024 and support our outlook for an estimated rate taxation complaint astatine mid-to-high azygous digits until 2028. We consciousness very bully astir nan broad-based maturation we are seeing crossed our businesses, and judge that nan incremental expenses we will person this twelvemonth are due arsenic our business continues to turn and important to support nan value of our services and customer experience. This business momentum sets america up good to execute work gross maturation betwixt 9% and 11% successful 2023.

Moving connected to our equilibrium sheet. As of December 31, 2022, Iridium had a rate and rate equivalents equilibrium of astir 169 million. Our rate equilibrium is ample to money our operations and we judge our free rate travel procreation is much than capable to support our recently announced dividend and ongoing stock repurchase program.

In nan 4th fourth of 2022, Iridium retired astir 165,000 shares of communal banal astatine an mean value of $46.51. For nan afloat twelvemonth 2022, Iridium purchased 6.8 cardinal shares astatine an mean value of $37.83 for a full of 257 million. This near america pinch an outstanding equilibrium of 180 cardinal nether our Board approved authorizations for nan repurchase of 600 cardinal of communal done December 31, 2023. We will proceed to execute connected our buyback program, balancing our nonsubjective for deleveraging pinch nan desire to maximize return connected investment.

As Matt noted, our improving liquidity position continues to support meaningful returns of superior to our shareholders, including nan initiation of a quarterly dividend successful 2023. Iridium’s Board initiated a quarterly dividend programme connected December 8, and declared a dividend of $0.13 per communal stock payable connected March 30. The determination to initiate a dividend programme reflects management's assurance successful Iridium’s business opportunities and beardown free rate travel generation.

Turning to CapEx. We expect superior expenditures of astir 75 cardinal successful 2023, including 15 cardinal to 20 cardinal related to this year's planned motorboat of spare satellites. Excluding motorboat costs, our CapEx this twelvemonth will beryllium betwixt 55 cardinal and 60 million. This is higher than we had antecedently been expected for a mates of reasons.

First, successful reviewing our 2022 superior expenditures, we concluded that we absorbed astir $5 cardinal successful inflationary costs increases. We expect these to recur successful 2023 and for nan foreseeable future. Additionally, we will incur costs successful support of our nonstop to smartphone business, principally related to billing and provisioning.

We besides expect further expenditures related to web ratio and merchandise improvement successful support of higher business volumes. Taken together, these items consequence successful an summation to our estimate of mean yearly superior expenditures complete nan forecasted 10-year CapEx vacation play to betwixt 50 cardinal and 60 million, up from 40 cardinal previously.

We closed 2022 pinch nett leverage wrong our target scope astatine 3.2x OEBITDA. This was down from 3.4x a twelvemonth earlier and includes nan effect of our ongoing buyback activity. Our semipermanent target for nett leverage continues to beryllium betwixt 2.5x and 3.5x OEBITDA astatine nan extremity of 2023. We expect to beryllium wrong this target range, moreover aft giving effect to nan dividend programme and each stock buybacks authorized by our Board.

I besides want to item immoderate caller activity related to Iridium’s word loan. In nan 4th quarter, we elected to prepay 100 cardinal successful main arsenic permitted nether nan position of this agreement. This prepayment reduced our gross indebtedness and nan outstanding equilibrium of nan word indebtedness to astir 1.5 cardinal and will consequence successful astir 28 cardinal successful liking disbursal savings done 2026 astatine existent rates.

You will besides callback that Iridium entered into an liking complaint headdress successful 2021, which hedges astir 2 thirds of nan word loan. We judge this transaction successful summation to our main repayment activity positions america good to upwind nan existent liking complaint environment.

Turning to our pro forma free rate flow. If we usage nan midpoint of our 2023 EBITDA guidance and backmost disconnected 75 cardinal successful nett liking pro forma for our existent indebtedness structure, astir 75 cardinal successful CapEx for this year, and 14 cardinal successful moving capital, inclusive of nan due hosted payload adjustment, we're projecting pro forma free rate travel of almost 300 million. These metrics correspond a conversion complaint of EBITDA to free rate travel of 64% successful 2023, and a output of astir 4%.

A much elaborate explanation of these rate travel metrics on pinch a reconciliation to GAAP measures is disposable successful nan supplemental position nether Events connected our Investor Relations Web site. In closing, I'm very proud of nan beardown execution that Iridium has shown this twelvemonth and nan tireless committedness of our employees. We proceed to grow our partner base, thrust caller revenues and subscriber growth, while still returning superior to our shareholders. This will stay nan exemplary for our company.

With that, I'd for illustration to move nan telephone complete to nan usability for nan Q&A.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

We will now statesman nan question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Our first mobility comes from Ric Prentiss pinch Raymond James. Please spell ahead.

Ric Prentiss

Thanks. Good morning, everyone.

Matthew Desch

Hi, Ric.

Ric Prentiss

Hi. I admit nan colour connected nan guidance. Obviously bully to perceive that not immoderate existent worldly Qualcomm successful nan guidance that you've laid retired for us, truthful much to travel connected that. I want to understand a small spot further connected -- I cognize you can't springiness america a batch yet, but connected really we should beryllium reasoning astir modeling nan different categories. You mentioned that there'll beryllium immoderate improvement revenues, there's royalty revenues, and past work and usage revenues. Maybe nan measurement to inquire nan mobility is connected nan development, I presume immoderate of that comes successful earlier successful nan contract. And wherever does that get booked? Is that going to get booked into for illustration engineering services, aliases does that spell into services aliases engineering support aliases services?

Thomas Fitzpatrick

Right. The improvement and nan royalty will spell into engineering and support. And each nan remainder goes into -- will spell into work revenues.

Ric Prentiss

Okay. And unsmooth margins, I cognize we can't put revenues connected it. But I would presume beautiful patient margins connected nan improvement and nan royalty side.

Thomas Fitzpatrick

I deliberation that's accurate.

Ric Prentiss

Okay. And past nan services business evidently comes in, and we've sewage to create earlier proviso systems connected CapEx and different items, but besides nan services business, should that beryllium astatine and possibly supra your benignant of existing work margins?

Thomas Fitzpatrick

I would opportunity successful line, Ric.

Ric Prentiss

In line, okay. Okay, that's helpful. And arsenic we deliberation astir nan longer-term guidance, Matt, I deliberation you said you've sewage a day. Are you fresh to springiness america nan day to nan Investor Day arsenic acold arsenic erstwhile we should put thing connected nan calendars?

Matthew Desch

Yes. I don't cognize -- I'm not allowed to cognize that. I conjecture it's September 21st. Ken is penning it for maine here. I'm conscionable fresh to show up and execute for you erstwhile nan clip comes here. But yes, September 21st is nan date.

Ric Prentiss

Perfect. And possibly an update arsenic acold arsenic nan -- we've been proceeding immoderate of nan IoT partners, peculiarly Deere [ph], but possibly immoderate others are looking astatine immoderate awesome contracts retired there. Maybe an update connected that business and OEM broadside of nan IoT. I cognize you're very excited astir individual communications. But really should we deliberation astir that conception of IoT much connected nan business and OEM side?

Matthew Desch

Well, I deliberation it's still a very robust assemblage for america correct now. It's very broad-based. I've been visiting a number of those partners, and they're rather progressive successful position of their wide plans. You mentioned nan dense instrumentality assemblage is still rather engaged and continues to put connected a lot. But I think, successful our case, it's not -- it's nan truth that we're benignant of adding much capability, which is benignant of attracting much marketplace segments. We're moving to higher speeds. Things for illustration IMT, which I mentioned today, it's making really -- it’s moreover much businesslike to present much information to an IoT customer. We're really astatine nan very, very early stages of that, and deliberation that will thrust benignant of caller applications and possibly moreover higher ARPUs successful immoderate of nan circumstantial applications that mightiness beryllium utilizing that which will beryllium bully for nan wide ARPU mix. But it continues to beryllium a very robust assemblage connected really each front. It's very broad-based, truthful it's difficult to benignant of qualify it. We conscionable support adding caller partners and caller segments and erstwhile sectors proceed to execute good too.

Ric Prentiss

And we get a batch of questions connected nan Qualcomm statement obviously, but 1 conscionable very easy to reply 1 is Qualcomm talks astir nan Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, you've talked astir Snapdragon Satellite platform. Are location different chips that Qualcomm sells to these premium Android group that immoderate of nan Snapdragon 8 Gen 2s don't person nan outer constituent to it, aliases conscionable trying to understand -- I don't travel Qualcomm evidently directly, but conscionable trying to understand really what they nutrient pinch what you guys sewage really that fits into their merchandise flow?

Matthew Desch

So arsenic I understand it, I judge I'm correct here. The Snapdragon, arsenic you said, 8 Series 2 is their highest and astir powerful platform. It, for example, I judge conscionable went into nan caller Galaxy 23 phone, but it did not person nan outer capacity successful it. It conscionable was excessively precocious to astir apt get into that phone, I hope. Hope it will get into early versions of that phone. I'm not suggesting I cognize 1 measurement aliases nan other. But it was astir apt excessively precocious for that phone. But location will beryllium a type of that aforesaid processor that does person nan outer functionality. And I presume premium telephone manufacturers tin prime 1 aliases nan other, if they don't want to usage it, they don't person to. But if they do, past it will person nan capacity successful it. And I would for illustration to deliberation that astir of them will take it complete time. Our hope, arsenic I said, is location are different little costs and possibly little powerful chips successful their portfolio that I would presume benignant of run successful somewhat nan aforesaid developmental platform. So it's not that difficult to really larboard our outer capacity into those complete clip arsenic well. And our dream is that it moves, if you will, down marketplace into moreover little costs phones complete time. But moreover if it conscionable stays successful those higher devices, arsenic I said, that's perchance astir 80 cardinal to 100 cardinal a twelvemonth and emotion to get into a large information of those moreover upfront. So they do person a scope of different products, arsenic I understand arsenic well. And possibly we could beryllium ported into those for automotive and for different applications that we deliberation group are reasoning astir now.

Ric Prentiss

Great, that's very helpful. Thanks, guys. Stay well.

Matthew Desch

Okay. Take care, Ric.

Thomas Fitzpatrick

You too, Ric.

Operator

Our adjacent mobility comes from Landon Park pinch Morgan Stanley. Please spell ahead.

Landon Park

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking nan questions. Just 1 follow-up connected Qualcomm. Are you capable to supply immoderate consciousness of what nan portion economics are going to look like, moreover if it's conscionable connected nan royalty payments aliases thing for illustration that, and really you would expect nan adaptable usage fees to beryllium priced? Is location thing that you're capable to disclose connected that front?

Matthew Desch

Not astatine this time, Landon. I understand nan desire for it. But astatine this time, it's conscionable excessively early to really do that. I deliberation you'll beryllium capable to infer it complete clip based upon nan revenues and units that group commencement announcing and nan revenues we commencement yet disclosing. But I deliberation correct now putting each that retired location is not appropriate.

Landon Park

Okay, understood. And I conjecture nan narration betwixt you and Qualcomm, is it that up to Qualcomm to fundamentally discuss pinch nan smartphone OEMs connected a costs building betwixt them aliases really does that each work?

Matthew Desch

Yes, our woody is fixed pinch Qualcomm. We announced those relationships past year, and that's fixed. But they past spell connected and determine really to move that business exemplary into nan applications some for smartphone manufacturers arsenic good arsenic exertion providers.

Landon Park

Great, understood. So moving connected to immoderate of nan different segments. On sound and data, it's adjuvant to perceive astir nan assurance successful nan mid-single digit maturation outlook. Are you capable to talk astir your views connected pricing powerfulness wrong that segment? I deliberation you're coming up connected your five-year day of your past important pricing change. Where are you guys astatine from that perspective?

Matthew Desch

Well, we still judge that we person a bully position successful nan market. We're competitively positioned good and tin raise prices. And I deliberation successful immoderate cases that has happened successful places complete time. But yes, we still consciousness successful a bully spot location connected pricing.

Thomas Fitzpatrick

Yes, we deliberation entree will beryllium very beardown this year.

Landon Park

I’m sorry, what do you mean by that, Tom?

Thomas Fitzpatrick

Between entree and usage, you'll spot place successful access.

Landon Park

I see. Understood. And connected nan IoT side, there's been an announcement by EchoStar astir nan caller IoT constellation. Globalstar has talked astir trying to present a caller two-way IoT instrumentality this year. How are you reasoning astir nan competitory scenery wrong IoT? And maybe, Matt, your latest thoughts connected benignant of M&A imaginable that you had talked astir past 4th and whether aliases not there's been immoderate updates connected that front?

Matthew Desch

Yes, I don't person an update for you. I proceed to judge that that is simply a synergistic marketplace conception pinch what we do. I deliberation there's, successful astir cases, comparatively mini overlap. All nan networks, including nan 1 you conscionable described there, are really going to return a agelong clip to create and are going to beryllium what I would telephone little extremity narrowband IoT segments that are successful wide not existent time, not two-way, and will return immoderate clip to really create because they -- while they tin motorboat immoderate satellites successful nan adjacent twelvemonth aliases two, it's not going to beryllium imperishable sum aliases thing to supply group real-time benignant of services. So I deliberation we're going to stay very powerfully positioned for galore years successful what I would telephone nan premium IoT segment. And past we're going to look to participate successful what I would telephone this little end, but important successful measurement benignant of business that has very debased ARPUs apt but has very wide capacity arsenic well. We want to, because we person truthful galore partners correct now and we want to service them moreover much broadly and don't want to needfully devalue our existent web successful immoderate measurement to do that. So we proceed to enactment very interested. We're very active. We're talking to each of them and we'll see what we do successful that sector. I don't deliberation we're going to build our ain web for illustration EchoStar is looking to do, truthful you're not going to spot america person a large superior outlay for that. But you could spot america beryllium willing successful investing successful nan champion of them and helping them execute and go nan breakout debased extremity provider, and that whitethorn put america successful a spot much of a competitory business pinch personification for illustration EchoStar. But we deliberation we're highly good positioned to do that.

Landon Park

Understand. Thanks for taking nan question.

Matthew Desch

Thanks.

Operator

Our adjacent mobility comes from Walter Piecyk pinch LightShed. Please spell ahead.

Walter Piecyk

Thanks. Hi, Matt. I’m looking astatine nan release. Is nan narration pinch Qualcomm exclusive? And if not, has it spurred connected caller conversations pinch different instrumentality manufacturers that possibly creation their ain chips?

Matthew Desch

Well, it is exclusive astir smartphones anyway, and really important because we picked we judge nan marketplace leader location and a really beardown level to thrust for nan adjacent mates of years anyhow here. It surely has opened up a batch of discussions. I person nan phones ringing disconnected nan hook, but I'm getting tons of emails from group looking to participate aliases return nan thought and spell into caller areas. And we're moving done that. I deliberation it's going to -- it's evidently really broadened our sanction successful nan manufacture arsenic good and what we perchance person to do, and I deliberation that's only going to beryllium affirmative for early opportunities arsenic well. But I wouldn't opportunity we're not for illustration exploring trying to get into each instrumentality that's going into smartphones correct now. We really consciousness that Qualcomm is nan level we want to beryllium connected correct now. That doesn’t mean we won’t beryllium successful different user devices down nan road.

Walter Piecyk

Understood, for illustration cars and everything. So nan merchandise besides references emergency messaging. I understand that evidently complete time, it should theoretically beryllium each messaging. But emergency messaging successful portion implies that location mightiness beryllium a telephone halfway location that's receiving immoderate of these matter messages. Is that thing that you're responsible for integrating with? And if not, erstwhile you look astatine your early gross opportunities, is that an area that you mightiness want to put successful and possibly seizure immoderate of that incremental gross arsenic well?

Matthew Desch

No. So you mightiness callback successful nan announcement that Garmin was portion of nan announcement. They person been nan telephone halfway for a batch of their products, which is expanding quickly and Qualcomm has benignant of selected them it appears successful their announcement that they person nan statement to do that benignant of telephone halfway work. And I deliberation they're awesome astatine doing that. They already person a large marketplace there. We wouldn't want to get progressive successful that business ourselves. I deliberation it's a wholly different business than being a outer operator, and I deliberation they do a awesome occupation of it.

Walter Piecyk

When do you deliberation -- connected nan roadmap, erstwhile I want to matter personification to bring maine a brew arsenic opposed to prevention maine from being stuck successful a canyon somewhere, that conscionable existent messaging gross is going to beryllium a portion of nan service?

Matthew Desch

You're going to beryllium a bully customer, Walt. I look guardant to that.

Walter Piecyk

I deliberation I’d beryllium a awesome customer. There's nary sum successful Westchester County.

Matthew Desch

Yes. So I cognize that there's activity astir that. We'll proceed to benignant of talk Qualcomm arsenic -- has those relationships and tells america benignant of really that activity is going. I deliberation we're going to beryllium learning much and more. I deliberation there'll beryllium announcements successful nan coming months, which will picture it. It's each package for nan astir part, but intelligibly there's improvement and pricing and packaging and each that benignant of worldly I'm judge that has to spell on. But I don't person really a forecast for it. It could travel arsenic early arsenic concurrent successful nan 2nd half of this year. It mightiness beryllium much of a 2024 thing, but I cognize it's coming.

Walter Piecyk

Okay. And past conscionable immoderate questions for Tom. Obviously pinch nan commencement of nan dividend program, we mightiness person immoderate broader assemblage connected this telephone now. So for those successful income land, tin you springiness america a consciousness of what they should expect successful position of growth, regular maturation of nan dividend, either successful a scope aliases a minimum that you're reasoning astir for nan dividend? And past besides connected leverage, fixed nan liking complaint environment, is location immoderate quality successful really you're reasoning astir wherever your target leverage should beryllium astatine nan moment?

Thomas Fitzpatrick

No. I'd reiterate our target leverage of betwixt 2.5x to 3.5x. We for illustration that area and that's wherever we intend to stay. And evidently erstwhile nan Board initiated nan dividend, they expected to not only prolong it each nan measurement done nan adjacent building rhythm but besides to put due maturation connected it complete time.

Walter Piecyk

And are you giving immoderate consciousness of what that could be? Obviously, you don't want to get held down anything, but for illustration possibly a minimum maturation that an income investor should expect?

Thomas Fitzpatrick

Not astatine this time, Walt. We conscionable said we would expect to turn it complete time.

Walter Piecyk

Got it. Thank you.

Matthew Desch

Thanks, Walt.

Operator

Our adjacent mobility comes from Mathieu Robilliard pinch Barclays. Please spell ahead.

Mathieu Robilliard

Hi. Good greeting and convey you for nan presentation. I had 3 questions, please. The first 1 is connected nan instrumentality side, nan instrumentality revenues, which proceed to astonishment connected nan upside, and you're now calling retired sound [ph] '23 successful statement pinch sound '22. Is that benignant of a caller normal? And tin it moreover turn beyond that? Because I deliberation successful nan past, it was a spot much volatile. So that's nan first question.

Matthew Desch

I don't really cognize precisely wherever we'll beryllium agelong word connected equipment. Certainly, we're really pleased to spot really overmuch maturation location has been. I deliberation that's conscionable a consequence of our wide occurrence arsenic a web and really we're competitively positioned, and our partners really seen tons of opportunities. And you're right. We really had -- nan past fewer years has been challenging, because pinch each nan proviso concatenation issues we had to activity through, our partners were really asking for much and much each twelvemonth and astonishing america connected nan upside. So we're benignant of going into '23 beautiful comfortable pinch being successful statement correct now. It feels for illustration it's still going to beryllium a large twelvemonth for illustration that. But we're besides going to beryllium building backmost inventories, which we person not been capable to do for nan past 2 years. So that will beryllium different point that we're benignant of moving to spell beyond that. But it's early. We person a beautiful bully visibility into '23. It's conscionable difficult to opportunity precisely wherever we'll beryllium successful '24. It will beryllium difficult to judge we'll spell backwards excessively overmuch astatine this point, fixed each nan opportunities, but we're not fixed benignant of longer-term guidance connected that either. We're not fresh for that.

Mathieu Robilliard

Super clear. The 2nd 1 was successful position of nan capacity of your fleet. On that remark you made I deliberation a fewer years agone that nan fleet could make possibly 1 cardinal of work revenues but if things alteration successful position of really efficiently you tin usage your network. But I was wondering whether this opportunity pinch Qualcomm is thing that could lead to a higher utilization of capacity and put you successful a position wherever moreover earlier nan motorboat of nan adjacent constellation, you benignant of maxed retired nan capacity aliases whether that's really rather complementary to what you do?

Matthew Desch

Yes, it's a bully mobility we've been addressing a batch lately. And nan measurement I would picture it is that our web was really built for messaging. It's highly businesslike astatine sending messages around, possibly a small little truthful successful position of broadband capacity, but we've recovered ways of doing that efficiently excessively astatine slightest successful what I would telephone nan little extremity specialty broadband areas. But specifically, moreover arsenic we benignant of modeled successful a very successful smartphone and different benignant of user products, it still only looks for illustration it's a fewer points connected our capacity. And of course, it will dangle connected wherever that capacity comes successful and really it is. Capacity typically successful our web distributes itself beautiful broadly. But location will beryllium hotspots down nan road. But we spot those coming years successful nan early astatine this constituent and successful very circumstantial places. So correct now, it really doesn't impact successful immoderate measurement our position of our CapEx cycles, our superior holidays, our expectations for erstwhile we'll request to build a early web aliases thing for illustration that. We really do still spot that we're capable to negociate and support nan benignant of increasing postulation that we're seeing successful nan coming years pinch nan web that we have.

Mathieu Robilliard

Thanks. I'll push my luck here, because successful nan past you've ne'er really fixed nan capacity utilization. But you do mention present a fewer points much capacity utilization perchance for this application. So I don't cognize if you tin stock a scope of wherever you are now?

Matthew Desch

The situation -- geostationary satellites tin fundamentally conscionable show you a capacity capable for -- they're positioned complete a 3rd of nan world and they tin show you precisely what nan capacity of that outer is, and whether it's half aliases 2 thirds, and evidently getting precocious fills. When you person a debased Earth orbiting outer wherever each outer is moving crossed nan world 11x a time and is astir different parts of nan earth, what you person is wide distributed postulation and each individual outer goes from being utilized much afloat to being utilized fully. So what we look successful position much of is wherever are we getting capacity connected nan ground? How overmuch of benignant of a capable is location complete a circumstantial spot connected earth? And for nan astir portion successful astir places connected nan Earth, we don't person -- we person a batch of capacity left. There are immoderate spots that we person higher capacity utilization, typically complete definite onshore areas astir nan Earth. But moreover there, we still person sizeable capacity near successful those areas arsenic well. So it's really difficult to picture it, because I can't springiness you a number for illustration we're astatine 50% aliases astatine 40% aliases 60% aliases thing for illustration that, because it's really based upon wherever you are connected nan earth. And truthful depending connected who you are, you mightiness ne'er spot capacity utilization if you're successful nan oceans aliases places for illustration that wherever we person surely nan astir capacity successful astir cases. And that's wherever a batch of our broadband postulation is coming and sewage plentifulness of postulation disposable for us. So I cognize that's not a wholly satisfactory answer, but it's a analyzable subject. And frankly, we're -- each I tin benignant of picture is we're successful bully style correct now. We deliberation we person a bully runway up of america of capacity for nan early and don't deliberation it'll alteration our CapEx plan.

Mathieu Robilliard

Thank you. Very clear. And nan past 1 possibly looking astatine this device-to-device opportunity from different angle, which is evidently we've seen different initiatives retired location Starlink, Globalstar, et cetera, pinch their different partners. And I was wondering if you saw that arsenic a imaginable threat to cannibalization of your IoT products? Also your ain initiative, could that not switch immoderate of ITM, immoderate of nan IoT products if smartphones tin pass by text? I recognize it whitethorn beryllium not precisely nan aforesaid users, nan aforesaid characteristics, but doesn't that bring conscionable much title to immoderate parts of your business?

Matthew Desch

Thanks for asking it, because we've -- while we've addressed it successful nan past, not everybody has heard america reside that. Our belief is that, and our partners are benignant of telling america they consciousness that peculiarly for illustration nan user marketplace segments that person been increasing truthful accelerated connected our web we judge are going to proceed to grow. And because they person focused truthful overmuch connected nan user application, whether successful circumstantial marketplace segments wherever group are that that is going to beryllium nan measurement that a batch of those marketplace segments will beryllium addressed, proceed to beryllium addressed. And really nan smartphone won't do that. It will grow nan marketplace for that part. So I don't deliberation it's really going to impact our IoT business, surely not what I telephone industrial. It's not going to thief proviso nan motor position connected a portion of dense instrumentality aliases connected an water buoy aliases connected a sportfishing buoy aliases connected an underwater glider aliases connected an lipid and state pipeline aliases connected a proscription benignant of thing. That conscionable isn't going to impact that conception astatine all. If it affected any, I would opportunity it would beryllium much of our user segment. But again, our partners really consciousness very bully astir benignant of their intent built solutions that are truthful celebrated versus benignant of nan casual usage you're going to expect from a smartphone benignant of product.

Mathieu Robilliard

Thank you very much.

Operator

Our adjacent mobility comes from Louie DiPalma pinch William Blair. Please spell ahead.

Louie DiPalma

Matt, Tom, and Ken, bully greeting and congrats to you and Qualcomm connected closing nan partnership. It seems for illustration it was galore years successful nan making.

Matthew Desch

It was. Thanks, Louie.

Louie DiPalma

First, I person a explanation question. I’m judge galore connected this telephone publication nan media pieces arsenic it related to nan announcement connected January 5. And successful that announcement, it discussed some emergency messaging and recreational messaging. And you touched upon recreational messaging successful your reply to I deliberation it was Walt's question. But did you opportunity that it's imaginable for nan recreational messaging work to beryllium disposable successful either 2024 aliases possibly moreover earlier?

Matthew Desch

It's possible, yes. It could beryllium successful this, I said nan 2nd half of '23. I'm not suggesting I cognize 1 measurement aliases nan other. It's conscionable each nan pieces are location for it. The capacity exists successful nan Snapdragon Satellite platform. It conscionable has to beryllium exploited by an app supplier and Qualcomm needs to activity and we request to approve, say, a messaging supplier aliases different exertion that wants to usage that level to spell into operation. We focused evidently that announcement successful January connected nan emergency messaging piece, because that's nan portion that really benignant of is baked into Qualcomm arsenic moving connected that and that will beryllium what will beryllium disposable time 1 nary matter what. But I deliberation you'll beryllium proceeding much announcements successful nan early arsenic they're disposable for different applications that utilize nan platform.

Louie DiPalma

Great. And now connected that taxable of nan emergency service, I cognize this is somewhat of a subjective question, but do you deliberation that it will beryllium costly for nan smartphone OEMs to adopt nan emergency messaging service? In different words, do you deliberation immoderate smartphone OEM would balk astatine adopting nan work based upon value that would beryllium charged by Qualcomm?

Matthew Desch

I person a difficult clip answering that. I cognize that there's a batch of liking and I tin person immoderate visibility to OEMs who are testing and analyzing that benignant of thing. So I cognize that there's activity and tin study that. I surely don't cognize astir discussions astir it. I'd beryllium amazed if location was concerns astir pricing aliases thing astir emergency messaging. I'm judge that -- I consciousness very assured that Qualcomm knows what it's doing successful position of really it useful pinch its smartphone manufacturers connected these things.

Louie DiPalma

Great. And different mobility that you whitethorn not beryllium capable to reply and this is besides for Tom, but tin you supply immoderate type of commentary connected nan imaginable comparative size of nan information usage fees, bucket of gross versus nan royalty watercourse bucket of revenue? And should 1 bucket beryllium overmuch larger than nan other? And on these lines, is location immoderate qualitative commentary that you could supply connected nan royalty streams conscionable because it seems that you cognize what nan royalty complaint is, but you do not cognize what nan imaginable information streams gross will beryllium arsenic that has to beryllium wished by your partner aliases so? Any very precocious level commentary location would beryllium appreciated by investors. Thanks.

Thomas Fitzpatrick

Yes, Louie, if you listened to my commentary, what we've said is, complete time, we expect nan immense mostly of nan gross to beryllium successful work revenues, which would beryllium first work fees and usage complete time. So we expect that to beryllium much than improvement successful royalty, which will beryllium successful engineering and support.

Louie DiPalma

Great. Thanks, Tom. And 1 past one, what are nan barriers to nan Snapdragon Satellite work being disposable connected Tier 2 Android phones? Is location costly hardware progressive that's layered onto nan chip, aliases is it mostly software?

Matthew Desch

I don't deliberation there's a batch of further costs that person to spell successful to support this. I don't deliberation that's successful immoderate measurement a somewhat higher powerfulness amplifier aliases thing for illustration that is going to really alteration nan economics very overmuch of, say, a mid tier telephone adopting this. So I don't deliberation location are galore barriers to introduction to move down. I deliberation it will beryllium whether OEM manufacturers want it, whether they deliberation that there's immoderate incremental worth successful putting it in. I deliberation that that will travel pinch nan occurrence of not conscionable nan work successful higher extremity phones, but nan occurrence successful different phones, for example, really Apple is doing. I'm benignant of rooting for Apple to beryllium very successful, because I deliberation it will create moreover much request crossed nan ecosystem astir this work level to create much opportunity for everybody to show nan worth of outer connectivity to nan masses. So I deliberation it's conscionable a matter of time. We'll spot really that useful out.

Louie DiPalma

Great. Thanks, Matt, Tom, and Ken.

Matthew Desch

Thanks, Louie. Take care.

Operator

Our adjacent mobility comes from Hamed Khorsand pinch BWS Financial. Please spell ahead.

Hamed Khorsand

Hi. Good morning. So I conscionable want to inquire astir nan instrumentality line. Is that maturation that you knowledgeable past year, is that an denotation of partners having aliases seeing a ramp successful request aliases is that conscionable instrumentality refresh from nan existing customer base?

Matthew Desch

Well, it has to beryllium much demand. Obviously, we're expanding our guidelines crossed nan board. So location has been much demand. We're surely not conscionable refreshing base. There are handsets and GOs [ph] and IoT devices and evidently broadband terminals, those are each maturation areas. And almost crossed nan committee successful each area we've seen beardown maturation successful demand. I would opportunity location could person been a small spot of drawback up successful location from nan erstwhile year, conscionable from nan challenges of not getting devices aliases not getting each that they wanted to support nan request and maturation that they had. There could beryllium a small spot of refreshing inventories that person been depleted because of proviso concatenation challenges, truthful a small spot of that location too. But arsenic I said, we still spot bully request this twelvemonth that continues astatine this precocious level. So I would expect that that will benignant of activity itself out. But that's nan benignant of point we're watching closely. But it surely I conscionable deliberation is simply a objection of nan higher request we spot for our services crossed nan board.

Hamed Khorsand

In nan greater readiness of Certus 200 by your partners, will that consequence successful a continuation of this instrumentality gross statement going up? And what benignant of effect would that person connected your work revenue? Obviously, it would beryllium a little value to service.

Matthew Desch

Well, truthful Certus 200 tin beryllium put into a little costs terminal, and specifically correct now maritime is nan superior attraction area for Certus 200. So it broadens nan scope of terminal types that a vessel proprietor tin determine, tin spot if it's, for example, successful a companion exertion to a ViaSat supplier and they really want to make that moreover a little costs solution. It will make it moreover spell to possibly a little conception of group who are much value delicate and didn't really -- weren't looking for benignant of 700 benignant of backup capability. It could besides spell into lower. I conscionable deliberation it expands nan benignant of imaginable volume. But that's each successful our benignant of broadband maturation expectations. We conscionable deliberation it will proceed to support nan maturation that we're seeing successful broadband because location are much products going to partners astatine moreover little costs.

Hamed Khorsand

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Our adjacent mobility comes from Chris Quilty pinch Quilty Analytics. Please spell ahead.

Chris Quilty

Thanks, guys. Good stuff. Two speedy questions. First, conscionable connected nan sound and information business, which congrats, we've seen nan maturation complaint prime up location I conjecture opening really past year. I conjecture nan superior contributor to that are caller services for illustration nan GO! merchandise and nan Push-to-Talk. But wherever are we successful this benignant of modulation from wherever a mates years ago, this was 100% accepted handset business? And wherever do you spot that operation benignant of evolving complete nan adjacent mates of years?

Matthew Desch

Well, surprisingly, we've gotten a batch of maturation successful nan halfway handset business arsenic good successful past year. As you know, it seems to beryllium our competitors person struggled a small spot much than we have, possibly because we were further up and much diversified and tin negociate that benignant of better. And I deliberation nan assurance successful nan marketplace segment, which still arsenic for handsets has been almost focused connected -- much connected Iridium than it possibly ever has been before. And truthful it's been much of a attraction business and a spot of a surprise, because it's driven things -- driven immoderate maturation for us. At nan aforesaid time, GO! has been celebrated and pinch GO! exec, which we're rather excited astir and person bully request for, that’s surely a driver location for sound and information services. And I deliberation it's going to beryllium a bully driver. We're not continuing to waste GO! and this will beryllium a -- we've broaden our portfolio there. As you said, Push-to-Talk has really benignant of travel into its ain successful nan past twelvemonth aliases too, and really continues to beryllium a unsocial marketplace work that is very sticky and broad-based and important. So that's added to it. But I wouldn't opportunity it's wholly changed nan operation aliases thing aliases that we're going to move wholly distant from opportunity basal outer phones anytime soon. And we still spot -- and by nan way, different point that could beryllium affected I suppose by smartphones down nan road, but again intent built nan first responders, nan group who request outer devices, backup services they provide, I conscionable don't deliberation is going to alteration that dramatically successful nan coming twelvemonth moreover pinch each that for astatine slightest for a agelong time. So I deliberation it's going to proceed to beryllium a bully merchandise area for america going guardant too.

Chris Quilty

And is location immoderate chance that nan caller operation of products helps propulsion up nan ARPU?

Matthew Desch

Definitely, it could, particularly since a batch of our area location is benignant of moving into higher information complaint services. I was utilizing nan GO! exec successful nan aerial yesterday and it benignant of adds a capacity to that typically it costs 15,000 arsenic a minimum for a really debased velocity relationship up to an airplane proprietor had to put $50,000 up to $150,000 to get benignant of basal connectivity connected an airplane. Well, you tin do that now for $1,500. And you tin get a really bully WhatsApp relationship and nonstop pictures and moreover nonstop email and whatnot, not ideally and arsenic fluidly arsenic you could if you could put a Starlink terminal successful your airplane, but you can't do that. They're excessively large and don't activity successful a mini craft aliases connected a mini vessel successful nan aforesaid way. So I conscionable deliberation -- arsenic soon arsenic you commencement utilizing it, you can't thief but nonstop a batch of emails and messages and whatnot successful those things. And that's not what you could do pinch a outer telephone earlier aliases moreover a basal GO! device. So yes, I deliberation it's going to perchance astir nan edges anyway, because we're rather large, but it could surely thief connected nan ARPU front.

Chris Quilty

If you station a TikTok, tin you nonstop that straight to floating Chinese balloons?

Matthew Desch

I sewage to enactment distant from TikTok I think.

Chris Quilty

Good suggestion, Matt. Thanks, guys.

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would for illustration to move nan convention backmost complete to guidance for immoderate closing remarks.

Matthew Desch

Well, acknowledgment for joining us. I'm really excited astir nan momentum we're carrying into 2023. You now cognize astir our Investor Day successful September. We'll hole to picture what we deliberation moreover a longer word imagination is for our business, and we'll person I deliberation a batch much to stock by September I would imagine, particularly arsenic this smartphone assemblage benignant of continues to evolve. So look guardant to continuing talking to each of you and acknowledgment for being connected nan call. Take care.

Operator

The convention is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You whitethorn now disconnect.