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American Axle & Manufacturing Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:AXL) Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call February 17, 2023 10:00 AM ET

Company Participants

David Lim - Head of Investor Relations

David Dauch - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Christopher May - Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Conference Call Participants

John Murphy - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Dan Levy - Barclays Bank PLC

Emmanuel Rosner - Deutsche Bank

James Picariello - BNP Paribas

Ryan Brinkman - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Operator

Good morning, everyone. My sanction is Jamie, and I will beryllium your convention provider today. At this time, I would for illustration to invited everyone to nan American Axle & Manufacturing Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. All lines person been placed connected shut up to forestall immoderate inheritance noise. After nan speakers' remarks, location will beryllium a question-and-answer period. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's telephone is being recorded.

I'd now for illustration to move nan level complete to Mr. David Lim, Head of Investor Relations. Please spell ahead, Mr. Lim.

David Lim

Thank you, Jamie, and bully morning. I'd for illustration to invited everyone who is joining america connected AAM's 4th fourth net call.

Earlier this morning, we released our 4th fourth of 2022 net announcement. You tin entree this announcement connected nan Investor Relations page of our website, www.aam.com and done nan PR Newswire services. You tin besides find supplemental slides for this convention telephone connected nan Investor page of our website arsenic well. To perceive to a replay of this call, you tin dial 1-877-344-7529, replay entree codification 5108684. This replay will beryllium disposable done February 24.

Before we begin, I'd for illustration to punctual everyone that nan matters discussed successful this telephone whitethorn incorporate comments and forward-looking statements taxable to risks and uncertainties, which cannot beryllium predicted aliases quantified and which may origin early activities and results of operations to disagree materially from those discussed. For further information, we inquire that you mention to our filings pinch nan Securities and Exchange Commission.

Also, during this call, we whitethorn mention to definite non-GAAP financial measures. Information regarding these non-GAAP measures arsenic good arsenic a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to GAAP financial accusation is disposable connected our website.

With that, fto maine move things complete to AAM's Chairman and CEO, David Dauch.

David Dauch

Thank you, David, and bully morning, everyone. Thank you for joining america coming to talk AAM's financial results for nan 4th fourth and full-year of 2022. Joining maine connected nan telephone coming are Mike Simonte, AAM's President; and Chris May, AAM's Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

To statesman my comments today, I'll reappraisal nan highlights of our 4th fourth and full-year 2022 financial performance. Next, I'll screen our achievements successful 2022 connected some electrification and connected our bequest business. After Chris covers nan specifications of our financial results, we will unfastened up nan telephone for immoderate questions that you each whitethorn have.

So let's begin. AAM's 4th fourth operating results, akin to nan 3rd quarter, were negatively impacted by manufacture macro conditions. However, AAM concluded nan twelvemonth pinch beardown rate travel capacity for nan 4th fourth and nan full-year of 2022. We proceed to enactment focused connected managing nan factors that are nether our control.

AAM's 4th fourth 2022 income were $1.4 billion, and for nan full-year, AAM income were astir $5.8 billion. From a profitability perspective, AAM's adjusted EBITDA successful nan 4th fourth was $158 cardinal aliases 11.3% of sales. For nan full-year, AAM's adjusted EBITDA was $747 cardinal aliases 12.9% of sales. It was simply a challenging year. AAM was negatively impacted by proviso concatenation disruptions including semiconductor availability, which apt impacted world accumulation by complete 4 cardinal units successful 2022.

Combined, these factors drove important customer accumulation volatility and additionally, we navigated higher input costs passim nan year, including rising utility, labour and worldly costs. Relative to nan first half of nan year, nan 2nd half of 2022 was a much difficult operating situation for us. That stated, moreover pinch these challenges, we recovered solutions to mitigate a number of these issues and still beforehand cardinal semipermanent initiatives connected galore fronts.

I'll screen immoderate of these topics successful a fewer moments. AAM's adjusted net per stock successful nan 4th fourth of 2022 was a nonaccomplishment of $0.07 per share. For nan full-year, AAM's adjusted EPS was $0.60 per share. AAM's rate travel capacity continued to shine. AAM's adjusted free rate travel successful nan 4th fourth was $99 million, and for nan full-year, AAM's adjusted free rate travel was $313 million. This rate travel was deployed successful 2022 to support important indebtedness reduction, our acquisition of Tekfor and investing successful electrification to position america for nan future.

Chris will supply further accusation regarding nan specifications of our financial results successful a fewer moments. Let maine talk astir nan business updates and cardinal highlights, which you tin spot connected Slide 4 and Slide 5. We are very pleased to denote that AAM will proviso Jupiter Electric Mobility pinch e-Beam axles for nan company's 2.2-ton artillery electrical ray commercialized vehicle. Jupiter Electric Mobility is portion of India's Jupiter Wagons Limited, which manufactures railcars, commercialized and dense vehicles and marine containers.

We statement that this is our 2nd e-Beam announcement pinch our first being EKA Motors. The 2nd announcement, a trial to AAM's expertise to harvester electrical thrust exertion to a afloat beam axle configuration, providing optimal capacity for electrical commercialized conveyance applications.

Also, we are very happy to stock that AAM will proviso TracRite Electronic Locking Differentials for a caller electrical SUV program, providing superior traction for aggregate applications and enhancing rider safety.

During CES, galore of you knowledgeable this exertion firsthand. This conveyance is simply a derivative of what is retired successful nan marketplace coming and nan capacity of nan SUV type should beryllium arsenic as impressive. AAM is successful a awesome position to supply a afloat portfolio of products from EV components specified arsenic gears and differentials to afloat electrical thrust systems.

For nan full-year 2022, it was surely an eventful twelvemonth pinch galore accomplishments. I want to item conscionable a few. After overmuch anticipation, we announced and launched 1 of nan astir blase and highly engineered electrical thrust units successful nan Mercedes-AMG GT 63 capacity vehicle. This conveyance is an engineering marvel, and we are excited to support a globally recognized premium capacity marque successful Mercedes-AMG. In addition, past year, we were awarded aggregate contracts pinch awesome world OEMs for electrical components and thrust units.

Our strategy to support nan afloat e-Propulsion worth concatenation to OEMs is taking clasp and expanding. As a exertion leader pinch a attraction connected innovation, we are excited to beryllium recognized of 3 Automotive News PACE Awards successful 2022 for our existent P3 Electric Drive unit, our collaboration pinch Mercedes-AMG and for our highly integrated three-in-one thrust portion that will motorboat successful nan coming years.

All nan while, we secured our bequest halfway business pinch much than $10 cardinal of life gross for next-generation full-size motortruck axle programs from mid-decade to beyond nan 2030 almanac twelvemonth play of time. AAM was besides precocious named nan caller axle supplier for GM's next-generation Colorado and Canyon programs, a conquest business triumph for us. This is simply a awesome programme for us, and it fits nicely pinch our ngo of securing bequest business arsenic we modulation to electric.

We expect afloat accumulation ramp yet this twelvemonth and arsenic 2023 unfolds, we'll spot nan afloat effect of that. We besides invited nan Tekfor Group to nan AAM family. Their method expertise successful improving clash and aboveground curen is highly pertinent for e-Propulsion applications arsenic good arsenic expanding customer and geographic diversification.

Furthermore, we received a number of further recognitions, including being named 1 of Forbes Best Large Employers, not only successful 2022, but besides already present successful 2023. Additionally, Newsweek recognized AAM arsenic 1 of America's astir responsible companies.

Now let's talk astir our semipermanent strategy. As I said before, our strategy is very straightforward. We will proceed to unafraid our bequest halfway business, optimize our operations and thrust EBITDA and rate travel generation. As volumes return, this business exemplary is designed to output handsome conversion. At nan aforesaid time, we will proceed to put successful electrification and solidify our position arsenic a world leader successful e-Propulsion systems, providing OEMs pinch cost-effective, high-value solutions.

On nan electrification front, we precocious hosted an investor arena and displayed our electrical thrust systems and components astatine CES, wherever we show our industry-leading electrical thrust technology. It is awesome to spot galore investors acquisition our engineering firsthand while having nan opportunity to thrust our electrification objection vehicles crossed aggregate conveyance segments.

What differentiates AAM is our level exertion that tin accommodate nan electrical propulsion needs crossed ray conveyance segments, ranging from mini cars to ray commercialized conveyance applications. The elasticity and modularity provides bequest and start-up OEMs pinch superior optionality from components, gearboxes, motors, powerfulness electronics to afloat systems and e-Beam axles. We dream that we intelligibly conveyed that connection to you astatine CES.

Before I move it complete to Chris, fto maine reiterate our three-year caller business backlog that we shared during our Technology Day and talk – erstwhile we besides talk our 2023 full-year financial outlook that was included successful our property merchandise this morning. AAM expects our gross caller business backlog covering a three-year play of 2023 to 2025 to beryllium astir $725 million. We expect to motorboat cadence of this backlog to beryllium $350 cardinal successful 2023, $225 cardinal successful 2024 and $150 cardinal successful 2025.

Our backlog factors successful nan effect of updated customer motorboat timing, our latest customer measurement expectations and does not see replacement business, only caller and incremental business. From a motorboat standpoint, we person 17 awesome launches present successful 2023, which should thrust maturation complete nan adjacent respective years. For nan backlog breakdown, please mention to Slide 6 successful our position package, 40% stems from electrification compared to 35% past year. And our attack to electrification is gaining nan traction successful our book of business. And currently, arsenic we've communicated before, we're quoting astir $1.5 cardinal of caller and incremental business pinch complete 75% of nan quotes that we are moving connected coming from electrification programs.

Let's talk astir 2023 from an extremity marketplace perspective. We forecast accumulation astatine astir 14.5 cardinal to 15.1 cardinal units for our superior North American market. This represents anyplace betwixt a 1% to a 6% summation complete past year. Because of nan industry's caller accumulation trends stemming from aggregate factors, including nan proviso concatenation challenges and macro situation I mentioned earlier, we stay cautious astir nan build situation successful 2023 astatine this time.

As such, Slide 7 illustrates AAM's 2023 financial outlook. AAM is targeting income of $5.95 cardinal to $6.25 billion, adjusted EBITDA of astir $725 cardinal to $800 million, adjusted free rate travel of astir $225 cardinal to $300 million, which assumes superior spending successful nan scope of 3.5% to 4% of sales.

In nan near-term, we will stay focused connected mitigating inflation, optimizing our business and addressing costs recoveries. Furthermore, we'll stay fierce successful our plans to position nan institution for early separator description . This includes our attraction connected works capacity and utilization, adaptable and structural costs improvements and further reducing nan superior strength of our business.

These initiatives will person a affirmative effect connected our business complete nan adjacent respective years. And arsenic we stated astatine CES, our extremity is to proceed to beryllium a top-tier separator performer and rate travel generator. In nan longer term, we will proceed to attraction connected securing our halfway business, generating beardown free rate flow, strengthening our equilibrium sheet, advancing our electrification portfolio and positioning AAM for profitable growth, particularly successful nan area of electrification.

I'm very excited astir what lies up for AAM, and that concludes my remarks today. Let maine now move nan telephone complete to our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Chris May. Chris?

Christopher May

Thank you, David, and bully morning, everyone. I will screen nan financial specifications of our 4th fourth and full-year 2022 pinch you today. I will besides mention to nan net descent platform arsenic portion of my prepared comments. So let's spell up and statesman pinch sales.

In nan 4th fourth of 2022, AAM income were $1.39 cardinal compared to $1.24 cardinal successful nan 4th fourth of 2021. Slide 10 shows a locomotion of 4th fourth 2021 income to 4th fourth 2022 sales. In nan quarter, we knowledgeable a little antagonistic effect from semiconductor and proviso concatenation challenges, which we estimate astatine astir $21 million. Positive volume, operation and different was $128 million.

The Tekfor acquisition contributed $84 cardinal to sales. And lastly, metallic marketplace pass-throughs and FX lowered nett income by astir $68 million, pinch metallic and FX some lower. Although income were up year-over-year, we statement that proviso concatenation volatility continued sequentially from nan 3rd quarter, resulting successful predominant changes to schedules.

For nan full-year of 2022, AAM income were $5.8 cardinal compared to $5.16 cardinal for nan full-year of 2021. The superior drivers of this summation were nan Tekfor acquisition, which occurred connected June 1 and accounted for astir $200 cardinal successful income and further measurement and operation passim nan year.

Now let's move connected to profitability. Gross profit was $167.2 cardinal successful nan 4th fourth of 2022 compared to $140 cardinal successful nan 4th fourth of 2021. Adjusted EBITDA was $157.7 successful nan 4th fourth of 2022 versus $164.6 past year.

You tin spot nan year-over-year locomotion down of adjusted EBITDA connected Slide 11. In nan quarter, higher income owed to a little effect of semiconductor readiness and wide measurement and operation and different added a nett $39 cardinal of adjusted EBITDA versus nan anterior year.

Fourth 4th material, freight and inferior inflation, nett of customer recoveries was an $8 cardinal headwind. The nett headwind for each of 2022 was $60 cardinal and successful statement pinch erstwhile estimates.

R&D was higher by astir $18 cardinal to support merchandise launches and our electrification portfolio. You whitethorn recall, past year, we had nan use of a ample customer ED&D reimbursement that accounts for astir of this year-over-year difference. And lastly, Tekfor added astir $5 cardinal successful adjusted EBITDA. For nan full-year of 2022, AAM's adjusted EBITDA was $747.3 cardinal and adjusted EBITDA separator was 12.9% of sales.

Let maine now screen SG&A. SG&A expense, including R&D, successful nan 4th fourth of 2022, was $88.5 million, aliases 6.4% of sales. This compares to $77.5 million, aliases 6.3% of income successful nan 4th fourth of 2021. AAM's R&D spending successful nan 4th fourth of 2022 was astir $39 million.

As we caput into 2023, we will proceed to attraction connected controlling our SG&A costs and investing successful our electrical thrust technology, capitalizing connected nan increasing number of electrification opportunities that are earlier us. And we expect R&D to summation successful 2023 and beryllium person to nan $40 cardinal per 4th connected average, though timing tin beryllium lumpy. The bully news present is we proceed to spot aggregate caller opportunities driving nan spend.

Let's move connected to liking and taxes. Net liking disbursal was $36.9 cardinal successful nan 4th fourth of 2022 compared to $41.8 cardinal successful nan 4th fourth of 2021. We proceed to use from our indebtedness simplification actions. In nan 4th fourth of 2022, we reported income taxation disbursal of $4.1 cardinal compared to a use of $2.3 cardinal successful nan 4th fourth of 2021.

As we caput into 2023, we expect our adjusted effective taxation complaint to beryllium astir 20% to 25%. Taking each these income and costs drivers into account, our GAAP nett income was $13.9 cardinal aliases $0.11 per stock successful nan 4th fourth of 2022 compared to a nett nonaccomplishment of $46.3 million, aliases a nonaccomplishment of $0.41 per stock successful nan 4th fourth of 2021.

Adjusted net per share, which excludes nan effect of items noted successful our net property release, was a nonaccomplishment of $0.07 per stock successful nan 4th fourth of 2022 compared to a nonaccomplishment of $0.09 per stock successful nan 4th fourth of 2021. For nan full-year of 2022, AAM's adjusted net per stock was $0.60 versus $0.93 successful 2021.

Let's now move connected to rate travel and nan equilibrium sheet. Net rate provided by operating activities for nan 4th fourth of 2022 was $148.5 million. Capital expenditures nett of proceeds from nan waste of property, works and instrumentality for nan 4th fourth of 2022 were $53.1 million. Cash payments for restructuring and acquisition-related activity for nan 4th fourth of 2022 were $6.6 million. The nett rate inflow related to nan Malvern Fire was $3 cardinal successful nan quarter.

Reflecting nan effect of these activities, AAM generated adjusted free rate travel of $99 cardinal successful nan 4th fourth of 2022. For nan full-year of 2022, AAM generated adjusted free rate travel of $313 cardinal compared to $423 cardinal successful 2021. As a team, we stay focused connected free rate travel conversion, including managing CapEx effectiveness and ratio and reducing rate restructuring payments.

From a indebtedness leverage perspective, we ended nan twelvemonth pinch a nett indebtedness of $2.4 cardinal and LTM adjusted EBITDA of $747.3 million, calculating a nett leverage ratio of 3.2 times astatine December 31. This is down from a 3.3 times leverage ratio astatine September 30, 2022.

In 2022, we lowered our gross indebtedness by complete $150 million, including $50 cardinal wrong of nan 4th quarter. We will proceed to utilize nan free rate travel generating powerfulness of AAM to fortify nan equilibrium expanse by reducing our debt. In addition, we refinanced our Term Loan B successful nan 4th fourth and now person nary important maturities until 2026. AAM ended 2022 pinch full disposable liquidity of astir $1.4 cardinal consisting of disposable rate and borrowing capacity connected AAM’s world in installments facilities.

So earlier we move connected to nan Q&A information of nan call, fto maine supply immoderate thoughts connected our 2023 financial outlook. In our net descent deck, we person included walks from 2022 existent results to our 2023 financial targets and you tin find those starting connected Slide 13. For sales, we are targeting a scope of $5.95 cardinal to $6.25 cardinal for 2023. This income target is based upon a North America accumulation of 14.5 to 15.1 cardinal units and prime assumptions for our cardinal programs. New business backlog launches of astir $350 cardinal and attrition of astir 200 million.

There is continued uncertainty successful 2023, arsenic David mentioned. Although proviso concatenation issues look to beryllium stabilizing comparative to past year, nan volatility that we knowledgeable successful nan 2nd half of 2022 looks to proceed successful nan near-term of 2023. We stay cautiously optimistic that nan operating situation will amended passim nan year. From an EBITDA perspective, we are expecting adjusted EBITDA successful nan scope of $725 cardinal to $800 million.

Let maine supply immoderate colour connected nan cardinal elements of our year-over-year EBITDA locomotion connected Page 14. First, we expect to person our recurring year-over-year merchandise measurement and operation increases astatine astir 25% adaptable profit.

Second, nan incremental information attributable to nan Tekfor acquisition principally represents 5 further months of profit publication successful 2023 versus 2022. Keep successful mind, since this is nan annualization of an acquisition, nan further profit publication is realized astatine a afloat costs separator floor plan and not adaptable profit rates.

Third, our R&D spending will summation year-over-year arsenic we put successful our early and support electrification projects that are successful various stages of motorboat and development. Four, we expect immoderate higher costs related to ostentation this twelvemonth and our extremity is to continually – to successfully discuss pinch our OEM customers' process.

And lastly, successful addition, AAM expects to present operational productivity to mitigate immoderate of these inflationary costs and ratio pressures we are experiencing wrong of our ain operations. You tin spot a continued year-over-year capacity connected our locomotion of a nett affirmative $10 million.

On Page 15, from an adjusted free rate travel perspective, we are targeting astir $225 cardinal to $300 cardinal successful 2023. The main factors driving our rate travel changes are arsenic follows. We person superior expenditures arsenic we are coming up connected immoderate cardinal launches and investments specified arsenic automation and electrification business. However, our CapEx to income ratio is still very debased by our humanities measures, arsenic we are targeting a CapEx arsenic a percent of income of astir 3.5% to 4%. We besides are expecting higher rate liking and taxes and we do spot opportunity to amended moving superior successful peculiar related to inventory.

And lastly, while not included successful our adjusted free rate travel figures, we estimate our restructuring payments, chiefly aliases related to nan integration of our caller acquisitions to beryllium successful nan scope of $20 cardinal to $30 cardinal for 2023. This continues a multi-year inclination for simplification of these type of expenditures. We expect to usage nan free rate travel generated successful 2023 to proceed to trim debt, further solidify our positional electrification and return advantage of prime marketplace opportunities to support maturation should they arise.

As it relates to cadence for nan year, we expect nan first 4th to acquisition nan lowest income per accumulation time and an overweight timing of value reductions. We besides expect to recognize a disproportionate effect from costs headwinds akin to what we knowledgeable past year. These costs typically see a timing facet wherever recoveries hap successful nan pursuing quarters.

As nan twelvemonth progresses, we forecast these nett costs to amended connected a quarter-over-quarter basis. In addition, our caller business backlog timing increases passim nan year. And lastly, we would expect a much unchangeable operating situation arsenic nan twelvemonth goes along.

So successful conclusion, 2022 was a reliable twelvemonth driven by accumulation choppiness, proviso concatenation inconsistencies and input costs challenges, each yet impacting our costs structure. That said, AAM will proceed to attraction connected what we tin control, including driving optimization, successfully negotiating customer recoveries, integrating nan Tekfor acquisition, executing connected our superior allocation scheme and processing class-leading electrification technology.

We are actively positioning AAM to beryllium nan electrical propulsion supplier of prime and you tin spot grounds of that from our increasing backlog and electrification mix. So arsenic costs stabilize, volumes return and nan realization of costs optimization improvements outlined by David earlier, AAM should make bully early EBITDA conversion translating to continued robust free rate travel generation.

Thank you for your clip and information connected nan telephone today. I'm going to extremity present and move nan telephone backmost complete to David, truthful we tin commencement Q&A. David?

David Lim

Thank you, Chris and David. We person reserved immoderate clip to return questions. I would inquire that you please limit your questions to nary much than two. So astatine this time, please consciousness free to proceed pinch immoderate questions you whitethorn have.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first mobility coming comes from John Murphy from Bank of America. Please spell up pinch your question.

John Murphy

Good morning, guys.

David Dauch

Good morning, John.

Christopher May

Good morning, John.

John Murphy

Hey. First mobility connected nan step-up successful R&D. I mean we saw immoderate of nan fruits of that successful its early stages successful immoderate of nan worldly – nan products you showed america retired successful Vegas, packaging astir nan inverter and nan electrical centrifugal were very absorbing and reasonably unique. But I'm conscionable curious, arsenic we deliberation astir this R&D measurement up, really overmuch of it is program-based for products that are successful nan bidding process and you whitethorn person won versus merchandise improvement to really spell and transportation your EV exertion to your consumers? I'm conscionable trying to understand really overmuch of this is structural going guardant aliases really overmuch is benignant of a step-up present successful nan short tally arsenic well?

David Dauch

John, this is David. I would opportunity a batch of our first spending correct now is much connected nan platform-based exertion to get our portfolio successful a position that we tin actively marketplace to our customers. Clearly, location will beryllium immoderate program-based spending arsenic we triumph caller business going forward. But nan mostly is platform-based to put nan merchandise statement successful place. And erstwhile that merchandise statement is successful place, past we'll expect that to standard down. But hopefully, immoderate of nan programme wins will – whitethorn require america to walk immoderate further electrification engineering resources aliases R&D arsenic we book caller business.

John Murphy

Okay. And past conscionable benignant of a housekeeping aliases 2 speedy housekeeping, Chris. The volatility successful schedules and nan disruption, tin you conscionable punctual america what that costs you successful 2022? What you expect successful 2023? And past also, erstwhile we deliberation astir gross versus nett connected nett caller business aliases caller business, it seems for illustration there's a large attrition this twelvemonth of $200 million. How should we deliberation astir attrition against that gross business bookings complete time?

Christopher May

Yes, John, successful position of your first mobility associated pinch nan ratio impacts. If you deliberation astir – if you look astatine our – nan walks that we provided passim nan people of nan year, we person a telephone successful location called capacity and other. And for example, successful nan 4th quarter, it's minus $13 million. The immense mostly of that would beryllium associated pinch nan effect of immoderate of that volatility. So you saw that some successful nan 3rd quarter, which was a small lighter than that. You saw immoderate further onset successful nan 4th fourth that we articulated.

The variances that you saw successful nan first half of 2022, I wouldn't really articulate those much arsenic ratio related to nan volatility because those were comparing to periods, I would telephone them, an almost near-COVID shutdown type of activity astatine nan opening of 2021. But those variances that you spot connected our walks successful nan backmost half of nan twelvemonth would beryllium by and ample suggestive of what we're experiencing done our operations.

The 2nd mobility – does that reply your question?

John Murphy

Yes. So I mean, truthful you're talking astir thing that's successful nan $20 million, $30 cardinal range, I mean if you benignant of put that together?

Christopher May

Yes, complete nan backmost half, that's what we experienced, correct, that's reasonable.

John Murphy

And do you expect that to proceed into 2023 astatine nan aforesaid complaint yet if nan world stabilizes, that would past spell away? Is that a adjacent statement?

Christopher May

Yes, that's adjacent statement. Correct.

John Murphy

Okay.

Christopher May

And I deliberation your 2nd mobility past was associated pinch attrition. We person $200 cardinal of attrition connected our year-over-year income locomotion that relates to immoderate programs successful China and besides immoderate successful North America. We person historically said nan effect associated pinch that was betwixt $100 cardinal to $200 cardinal this year, is astatine nan higher extremity of nan range. I would deliberation much person towards nan midpoint benignant of successful nan consequent years.

John Murphy

Okay. Great. Thank you very much, guys.

Christopher May

Yes. Thanks, John.

David Dauch

Thanks, John.

Operator

Our adjacent mobility comes from Dan Levy from Barclays. Please spell up pinch your question.

Dan Levy

Hi. Good morning, and convey you for taking nan question.

David Dauch

Good morning, Dan.

Dan Levy

Good morning. Wondering if you could conscionable talk a spot to nan operation trend? Obviously, T1, if you look astatine immoderate of nan third-party schedules, I deliberation that's forecasting them to beryllium down year-over-year. Can you conscionable talk astir nan effect of operation connected margins?

David Dauch

Yes. So from a wide perspective, arsenic associated pinch operation arsenic it relates to – if you deliberation astir our 2 largest programs, T1, RAM is evidently a ample program. I'll travel backmost to some of those successful a minute. The remainder of production, I would expect to proceed arsenic volumes travel backmost that to summation connected nan remainder of nan business, truthful that will commencement to summation its [proportional sale] operation of our wide business. RAM, astir apt very akin year-over-year. So obviously, you tin compute really nan operation would effect from that. And connected nan T1 perspective, I judge immoderate estimates – third-party estimates yesterday were conscionable updated to beryllium a small spot much elevated. I would deliberation astir that benignant of nan little extremity of our income range.

We're a small much bullish connected that platform. Our customers are a small much bullish connected that platform, we believe. So deliberation of our midpoint of nan range, possibly astir 5% higher than existent IHS estimates, and we're astir apt a small higher than that astatine nan precocious extremity of our range. But again, we're a small much bullish connected that. But you'll spot nan remainder of our book of business proceed to turn arsenic portion of that mix.

Dan Levy

Great. Thank you. And past nan 2nd mobility is connected your electrification backlog. So your communicative connected EV is that you person a assortment of ways to triumph betwixt subcomponents to afloat three-in-one system. Could you possibly break down of that 40% of nan backlog that is EV? Is location a unsmooth thought of nan operation connected subcomponents, afloat thrust units, immoderate of nan casing and nan unsmooth CTV that's implied there?

Christopher May

Yes. Dan, this is Chris again. Yes, nan mix, deliberation astir it somewhat much than half is associated connected nan – deliberation of nan thrust units, nan different – nan remainder past would beryllium connected nan constituent side. And past from a – I deliberation your 2nd portion of your mobility was contented per vehicle.

Obviously, connected nan thrust units, arsenic you've heard america possibly articulate our contented per conveyance is very important associated pinch those. Think of up to $2,500-plus. And past connected nan constituent side, depending connected nan vehicle, depending connected nan constituent supply, we could beryllium up to $500 per vehicle.

Dan Levy

Okay, great. Thank you.

Christopher May

Yep.

David Dauch

Thanks, Dan.

Operator

Our adjacent mobility comes from Emmanuel Rosner from Deutsche Bank. Please spell up pinch your question.

Emmanuel Rosner

Thank you very much. Good morning.

David Dauch

Good morning, Emmanuel.

Emmanuel Rosner

First mobility connected nan Tekfor acquisition. It seems based connected your 2023 walk, you're expecting possibly a separator publication benignant of for illustration nan debased double-digits based connected nan guidance. Can you conscionable punctual america if this is nan correct separator floor plan for nan business going guardant aliases if there's much incremental opportunity for improvement?

Christopher May

Yes. So if you deliberation astir – they came connected mid-year, June 1, 2022. And if you look astatine nan full-year performance, nan Tekfor had for america and contributed successful 2022 from an EBITDA perspective, it was conscionable a small spot northbound of 7%. And you whitethorn recall, going into this transaction, we saw a awesome opportunity to grow immoderate of our diversification successful customers, but besides a awesome synergy opportunity. So nan incrementals you spot coming connected statement for 2023, you're benignant of much than 10% to 12.5% range.

So you're accomplishing a mates of elements that you're bringing connected nan afloat costs business for nan first 5 months, positive you're starting to spot immoderate of those synergies commencement to footwear in, successful 2023. So that implies benignant of $5 cardinal to $10 cardinal scope of synergies coming online because you'll get a holistic assistance to your margins. I would expect synergies to proceed to turn aft this play arsenic well. And past obviously, erstwhile we modulation past nan full-year 2023, their alteration successful revenues will beryllium connected a adaptable profit basis.

Emmanuel Rosner

Yes. That makes sense. I wanted to inquire you astir non-material costs inflation. I deliberation you had antecedently indicated you expect immoderate of this ostentation to beryllium sticking astir for nan year. I don't really spot it arsenic a benignant of a awesome facet successful nan walk. Is this not a headwind for this year? Or do you expect offsetting these costs increases pinch productivity?

Christopher May

Yes. No, it continues to beryllium a headwind successful peculiar areas specified arsenic labour and immoderate different costs that we incur. It's included successful our productivity, ostentation and different communal nett column. If you deliberation astir successful 2022, our nett residual aft customer recoveries for nan bulk of this type of ostentation was astir $60 million. We besides had immoderate labour ostentation connected apical of that. Our anticipation is that connected a nett ground is little than that, little than half of that present successful 2023 versus 2022. But again, customer recoveries and productivity initiatives will thief america group a lot.

Emmanuel Rosner

Okay. And conscionable very finally, if I tin compression 1 more.

David Dauch

Sure.

Emmanuel Rosner

So I conjecture successful position of wide message, right? So your manufacture conditions are still reasonably choppy, and that benignant of continues to put immoderate unit connected margin. What benignant of – what do you request to spot to get backmost towards benignant of for illustration a way of unchangeable margins aliases separator description ? Is it conscionable – is it mostly astir nan volatility of schedules? Is it benignant of for illustration further manufacture measurement growth? I conjecture what would beryllium needed for that?

David Dauch

Yes. Emmanuel, this is David. I mean, clearly, nan first point is we conscionable spot stabilization successful our business, right? We were dealing pinch truthful overmuch uncertainty and volatility successful our accumulation schedules. So first point is stabilization of nan accumulation schedules.

Clearly, immoderate growth, arsenic nan marketplace starts to retrieve and rebuild immoderate of nan inventory, I don't deliberation nan inventory will ever spell backmost to humanities levels, but incremental maturation will beryllium affirmative for us. And past we besides request to spot stabilization of nan workforce from a labour standpoint. And we're not waiting astir for that. We're making investments successful automation and different things to return those things into our ain control. But nan biggest point would beryllium stabilization crossed nan board.

Christopher May

This is Chris. That's from nan labour perspective. Your mobility moreover much broadly arsenic it relates to margins. Obviously, measurement drives a batch of that stabilizing aliases reducing, moreover metallic marketplace reimbursements, obviously, ostentation that we conscionable talked astir that you're asking about. And ultimately, arsenic David mentioned successful immoderate of his prepared remarks, it continued to compression down connected immoderate of our fixed costs and capacity utilization increases will thrust separator arsenic well.

Emmanuel Rosner

Thank you very much.

Christopher May

Yes.

Operator

Our adjacent mobility comes from James Picariello from BNP Paribas. Please spell up pinch your question.

James Picariello

Hi. Good morning, guys.

David Dauch

Good morning, James.

James Picariello

Just arsenic a follow-on to nan past question, conscionable taking a measurement backmost and looking astatine by segment, reasoning astir about of astir each of nan R&D investments taking spot successful nan Driveline segment, what is really – what are nan driving forces that challenges successful nan metallic forming segment? And does this 4th fourth correspond nan bottom, right? I mean because we've seen immoderate beautiful notable sequential refines from an EBITDA perspective. Does nan 4th fourth people nan bottommost for metallic forming? And if not, conscionable clip statement connected that? And erstwhile does this get better? When does this get amended for this segment?

David Dauch

Yes, James, this is David. Yes, we do expect nan 4th fourth this past twelvemonth to beryllium nan bottom. Clearly, nan large rumor we're battling is labour readiness successful our metallic forming area. We're moving difficult to stabilize that and besides bring automation into those factories. But clearly, it's a dense fixed costs business. We request measurement moving crossed it. We intelligibly tally a batch amended erstwhile we person nan incremental measurement going crossed that. At nan aforesaid clip pinch scheduled volatility, you can't laic disconnected people. So therefore, there's an incremental cost, nan aforesaid 10 caller group that we're bringing successful don't person that acquisition level and we're incurring immoderate incremental overtime and scrap that we historically haven't endured. But we do deliberation nan 4th fourth was nan bottommost of nan metallic shape performance. We'll commencement seeing immoderate betterment to that quarter-to-quarter going forward.

Christopher May

And James, this is Chris. One different constituent I would add. You mentioned that regretfully, truthful that nan R&D is disproportionate connected nan Driveline conception of our business. What I would show you, astatine slightest from an ostentation standpoint perspective, utilities, costs and metallic marketplace impacts are overweight to nan metallic forming broadside of nan business. So you spot immoderate of that connected their separator pressure, and you saw that benignant of play retired done nan people of 2022, arsenic those costs elements moved around, and you saw ostentation for utility, successful peculiar successful Europe, which is wherever they person a ample attraction of businesses.

James Picariello

Got it. Understood. That's helpful. And past conscionable 1 connected liking expense. What's driving nan higher liking expense? Is it – was it nan refi that took spot successful nan 4th fourth conscionable carrying a higher liking rate? Or should we presume you're carrying immoderate much short-term related indebtedness connected nan equilibrium sheet?

David Dauch

Yes. I would show you, it's a creation of 3 elements. First, we really are – though it's difficult to see, receiving immoderate benefits from our continued indebtedness salary down. But nan 2 elements driving nan nett costs up would be, one, erstwhile we refinanced our Term Loan B, nan dispersed connected that was up 125 ground points versus nan Term Loan B that was primitively put backmost successful spot successful 2017.

And secondly, arsenic you know, this is simply a adaptable complaint indebtedness instrument. So it's efficaciously sulfur positive nan dispersed and sulfur is now, what, 3x aliases 4x what it was a twelvemonth ago. So that's really driving a portion of that. A bully chunk of this we person hedged, but holistically, nan rates are up connected nan adaptable indebtedness instrument.

James Picariello

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, our last mobility coming will travel from Ryan Brinkman from JPMorgan. Please spell up pinch your question.

Ryan Brinkman

Hi. Thanks for taking my question.

David Dauch

Good morning, Ryan.

Ryan Brinkman

Good morning. How should we deliberation astir R&D and CapEx trending arsenic a percent of income beyond 2023? And arsenic we drill down to nan effect connected for illustration EBITDA aliases FCF complete a multi-year period, do you expect that nan net and rate travel headwind from higher electrification spending is much of a for illustration multi-year timing rumor fixed that spending is taking spot successful beforehand of merchandise launches and that nan publication separator erstwhile these products do motorboat will offset nan higher costs complete time? Or I conjecture said differently, for illustration while dilutive initially is nan pivot toward electrification accretive, dilutive aliases neutral to EBITDA separator and free rate conversion complete nan mean and long-term?

Christopher May

Yes. From a rhythm – from a rate perspective, arsenic you constituent out, and David mentioned successful 1 of nan erstwhile questions, our R&D walk would beryllium elevated arsenic we're building retired our merchandise portfolio. That would past diminution and past you person immoderate imaginable programme circumstantial R&D arsenic you measurement into launches. But we would spot immoderate opportunity complete an extended play of time, arsenic you mentioned, successful nan future, we would expect this past to astatine immoderate constituent pivot and diminution down.

From a CapEx perspective, we're coming disconnected of 2022, which was, I think, nan lowest percent of income for CapEx successful nan company's history. Our guideline present this year, which continues to person programme launches, besides electrification constituent of it, still rather debased by our humanities standards to 3.5% to 4%. But our commentary astir this has been to effort to support our CapEx connected nan adjacent and mid-term astatine little than 5% of sales. We person been very focused connected superior ratio and effectiveness. And moreover arsenic we're pivoting into electrification, continuing to support a good, patient power and equilibrium complete our CapEx walk is simply a apical privilege for nan company.

Now wherever could you spot a different solution is erstwhile you triumph a important magnitude of caller and incremental business wrong of nan institution wherever you would person to walk immoderate other dollars, we deliberation that would beryllium a awesome finance to make.

Ryan Brinkman

Okay. Thank you very much.

Christopher May

Yep.

David Dauch

Great. Thank you, Ryan. And we want to convey each of you who person participated connected this telephone and admit your liking successful AAM. We surely look guardant to talking pinch you successful nan future.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, pinch that, we'll reason today's convention telephone and presentation. We do convey you for joining. You whitethorn now disconnect your lines.

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