Akoya Biosciences, Inc. (AKYA) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

Akoya Biosciences, Inc. (NASDAQ:AKYA) Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call March 6, 2023 5:00 PM ET

Company Participants

Priyam Shah - Head, Investor Relations

Brian McKelligon - Chief Executive Officer

Joe Driscoll - Chief Financial Officer

Conference Call Participants

John Sourbeer - UBS

Kyle Mikson - Canaccord

Mason Carrico - Stephens

Tejas Savant - Morgan Stanley

Mark Massaro - BTIG

David Westenberg - Piper Sandler

Tim Chiang - Capital One

Operator

Thank you for opinionated by. And invited to nan Akoya Biosciences Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, each participants are successful a listen-only mode. After nan speakers’ presentation, location will beryllium a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]

As a reminder, today’s convention telephone is being recorded. I will now move nan convention complete to your host, Mr. Priyam Shah, Head of Investor Relations. Please spell ahead, sir.

Priyam Shah

Thank you, Operator, and convey you to everyone who is joining america coming connected this call. I’m Priyam Shah, Head of Investor Relations astatine Akoya Biosciences. On nan telephone today, we person Brian McKelligon, Chief Executive Officer; and Joe Driscoll, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier coming Akoya released financial results for nan 4th fourth ended December 31, 2022. A transcript of nan property merchandise is disposable connected nan company’s website.

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And pinch that, I will now move nan telephone complete to Brian.

Brian McKelligon

Thank you, Priyam, and bully day and evening to everyone. We admit you joining america connected nan telephone today. 2022 was an fantabulous twelvemonth for Akoya capped disconnected by a beardown decorativeness pinch yet different record-breaking quarter. As an organization, we delivered coagulated commercialized execution and consistently beardown gross growth, installed guidelines maturation and publication maturation wrong nan spatial biology market.

We reported grounds gross of $21.2 cardinal successful nan 4th fourth and $74.9 cardinal for nan afloat twelvemonth of 2022, a 36% maturation complete nan anterior year. We sold a full of 71 instruments successful nan 4th fourth and 237 instruments for nan afloat twelvemonth 2022, a 61% maturation successful placements from nan anterior twelvemonth and we ended nan twelvemonth pinch an installed guidelines of 934 instruments. Akoya has nan largest installed guidelines of spatial instruments successful nan manufacture and we are connected way to scope 1,000 instruments by early this year, a awesome milestone for nan company.

Additionally, nan quickly accelerating publications measurement featuring Akoya’s platforms now astatine 772 publications to-date, is nan largest amongst spatial biology providers. Our accordant execution, ample and increasing installed guidelines and publication maturation gives america expanding assurance successful nan momentum of our business and nan spatial biology marketplace successful 2023 and beyond.

Akoya’s merchandise portfolio is mounting nan manufacture modular for next-generation insubstantial analysis. The institution was founded connected nan imagination and basal presumption that nan marketplace requires accelerated imaging-based NC2 exertion aliases broad insubstantial analysis, enabling nan knowing of nan molecular and cellular interactions astatine a azygous compartment level crossed full insubstantial sands.

In 2022, we solidified our instrumentality portfolio pinch nan motorboat of nan Fusion. We expanded our footprint crossed each marketplace segments and made important advancement connected our semipermanent objective extremity of impacting diligent care.

Akoya brings to nan spatial biology marketplace a afloat suite of end-to-end and purpose-built platforms crossed nan discovery, translational and objective marketplace segments. Our continuity of technology, reagents and methods crossed our full portfolio allows america to ain nan biomarkers travel from find to nan clinic.

At our caller Special Day arena successful December, we previewed our 2023 priorities and merchandise roadmap and nan summary is arsenic follows. First, we are introducing level and workflow improvements crossed our full instrumentality statement that will further beforehand our activity position successful spatial imaging and thrust further logic pull-through crossed our astir 1,000 instruments successful nan market. Second, we will build connected our commercialized and business occurrence successful nan translational objective markets to further beforehand our extremity of improving diligent care. And third, we will attraction connected driving operational efficiencies, including much targeted investments successful 2023.

Now fto maine reside each 1 of these successful much detail. Our level improvements see further simplification and acceleration of our workflows connected some nan PhenoCycler Fusion and nan PhenoImager HT. To return afloat advantage of these improvements, we are introducing expanded reagent menus of ready-made panels for some nan PhenoCycler Fusion for precocious plex find and nan PhenoImager HT for high-throughput translational studies.

These caller biomarker panels will beryllium marketed nether nan marque sanction PhenoCode. PhenoCode find panels for nan PhenoCycler Fusion and nan PhenoCode signature panels for nan HT. Our projected reagent pull-through increases will beryllium driven by improved strategy capacity and throughput, ready-made panels to summation plex and exertion breadth and an ecosystem of package partners to trim nan clip from information to answer.

Beginning adjacent quarter, nan Fusion 2.0 merchandise will beryllium rolled out. It is nan superior strategy betterment connected nan PhenoCycler Fusion for 2023 and results successful a important summation successful throughput and workflow simplification. This 2.0 merchandise includes a multi-slide bearer for parallel processing and insubstantial samples and efficaciously doubles nan strategy throughput up to 20 to 30 samples per week. This upgrade besides supports nan rollout of Bio-Techne’s RNAscope connected nan PhenoCycler Fusion.

I’ll punctual you, RNAscope is nan industry’s golden modular RNA NC2 assay pinch complete 6,000 publications to-date and wide take crossed nan life sciences market. RNAscope is an perfect solution to complement protein-based spatial phenotyping successful a targeted mode and to validate discoveries made pinch higher plex spatial transcriptomics approaches. And successful parallel, successful nan 2nd half of 2023, we will present Akoya’s proprietary high-plex spatial transcriptomics solution to support RNA and yet multiomic spatial studies.

On nan PhenoImager HT, we are continuing our efforts to simplify and streamline our informatic workflow and post-processing to a existent objective standard. In mid-2023, we will present further improvements to nan HT that moves nan post-processing insubstantial study steps straight onto nan HT for on-instrument compute.

The consequence will beryllium a simplification successful information post-processing from hours to minutes and an automated workflow for insubstantial and cellular annotation. This upgrade supports our translational and objective customer demands for accelerated and standardized study to thrust throughput, consistency and yet adoption.

Now to alteration our customers to return afloat advantage of these strategy improvements connected nan PhenoCycler Fusion and nan PhenoImager HT, we are introducing our caller PhenoCode reagent offerings. These PhenoCode panels will present a suite of ready-to-use biomarker panels, focused connected answering cardinal biologic questions pinch greater efficiency, velocity and comprehensiveness.

Our PhenoCode find panels are designed to tally connected nan PhenoCycler Fusion for discovery-based applications. The first merchandise motorboat will beryllium protein-based pinch RNA solutions coming later successful nan year. These panels will beryllium -- these panels will present -- will beryllium introduced passim nan twelvemonth connected a quarterly cadence.

We will stock much specifications astatine this year’s AACR gathering successful early April, but astatine a precocious level, nan PhenoCode find panels will beryllium launched arsenic modules of 10 to 20 biomarkers, enabling our customers to operation and lucifer modules to quickly build a broad precocious plex panel. We are focused connected halfway biomarkers and are designed to reside cardinal biologic questions successful oncology, inflammatory illness and neurobiology.

At nan AGBT convention past month, Akoya and our partners astatine Stanford each presented PhenoCode find panels pinch simultaneous discovery of macromolecule and RNA crossed ample sample cohorts, demonstrating awesome subject astatine velocity and scale. Throughout this twelvemonth and next, we will proceed to build retired these molecules for protein, RNA and multiomic applications, enabling precocious plex and precocious throughput find crossed a wide scope of applications and customers.

For nan translational and objective markets, our PhenoCode signature panels are designed to tally connected nan PhenoImager HT. The first 5 panels were created for nan quickly advancing immuno-oncology therapy scenery that includes astir 6,000 ongoing objective trials, which request pre-design validated antibody panels pinch discovery reagents and a ready-to-use format.

The PhenoCode signature panels alteration accelerated and scalable spatial signature improvement and deployment and will present higher gross per sample, accelerated and accrued strategy utilization, reduced assay optimization clip and will consequence successful a higher pull-through connected nan HT.

And now to pivot to package and information analysis, but to punctual you, Akoya’s platforms already leveraged connected instrumentality image processing and record compression that reduced record sizes by 30-fold from terabytes to gigabytes. This caller and proprietary exertion enables easiness of information transportation and study via our standardized record format called QPTIFF.

This standardized format besides simplifies and accelerates nan improvement of third-party package solutions. Rather than create and deploy a singular monolithic solution, Akoya strategy is to partner pinch a quickly increasing ecosystem of spatial biology package providers.

Similar to nan dynamics seen successful different markets for illustration microarrays and travel cytometry and NGS, quickly adopted caller technologies spur parallel improvement of supportive solutions. This is particularly existent of package and is surely happening now successful nan spatial biology market.

We already person a afloat scope of package partners to support nan unsocial customer needs crossed each of our platforms and marketplace segments. We person some commercialized and free unfastened root partners, we person cloud-based solutions and others that trust connected section compute. The increasing database of partners see established manufacture leaders for illustration VisioPharm, Indica Labs and PathAI, caller and quickly emerging providers for illustration OracleBio and Enable Medicine and unfastened root package and nan unfastened root package QPS.

In summation to this rich | merchandise roadmap, we are progressing respective initiatives successful nan downstream translational and objective markets, leveraging nan PhenoImager HT and our Advanced BioPharma Solutions CLIA Lab aliases ABS astatine Marlborough.

We precocious announced a business pinch Agilent to make imaginable a seamless end-to-end objective workflow for multi-plex assay usage successful objective trials. Akoya will leverage Agilent’s expertise and their objective people Omnis autostainer to support a afloat spectrum of multi-plex assays for biopharma.

With Agilent’s Omnis, objective antibodies and CDX expertise, and Akoya’s HT platform, CLIA Lab and method activity successful objective people multi-plexing, we tin together support objective assay development, validation and usage successful objective trials, creating a one-stop shop for our shared biopharma parts. The mixed spot of Agilent and Akoya, 2 leaders successful our respective fields, accelerates multi-plex companion diagnostic improvement programs and provides a world transmission for consequent commercialization.

Our statement pinch Acrivon Therapeutics to exclusively co-develop and commercialize a first-of-its-kind spatial signature companion diagnostic for their targeted oncology aging continues to beforehand pinch a objective proceedings ongoing and is yet different important milestone successful furthering our objective paper offering.

In parallel, ABS continues to spot robust maturation and description of existing and caller pharma partners. We made important advancement successful 2022, pursuing nan ample spatial biology objective TAM pinch cardinal partnerships and developments that will proceed to summation traction successful 2023.

To summarize our 4th fourth and afloat twelvemonth 2022, we are very pleased pinch our beardown financial and commercialized capacity this twelvemonth arsenic we proceed to grow our activity position successful nan spatial biology market.

As we outlined, we’re focused connected nan pursuing initiatives successful 2023. First, thrust nan continued take and improvements. PhenoCycler Fusion arsenic a best-in-class NC2 imaging level for Discovery spatial biology.

Second, proceed to present caller applications and thrust further workflow and velocity improvements crossed nan afloat instrumentality portfolio to thrust an summation successful pull-through.

And third, we’ll proceed to partner pinch starring biopharma, aesculapian centers, CROs and diagnostic leaders to thrust nan take of nan PhenoImager HT, translational investigation and objective diagnostics.

And lastly, we’ll thrust operational efficiencies and much targeted unit investments connected our way to execute profitability.

And pinch that, I will now move nan telephone complete to Joe to talk our financial results. Joe?

Joe Driscoll

Thanks, Brian, and hello, everyone. As Brian highlighted, nan full gross for nan 4th fourth of 2022 was a grounds $21.2 million, 31% maturation complete Q4 2021 and afloat twelvemonth gross was $74.9 million, 36% maturation complete afloat twelvemonth 2021.

Our highly beardown capacity successful 2022 contempt a challenging macro situation gives america expanding assurance that we are successful a precocious maturation marketplace pinch a beardown portfolio that meets nan needs of a wide customer guidelines crossed aggregate verticals and gross categories.

Product revenue, which includes instruments, reagents and package was $15.7 cardinal for nan 4th fourth and $57.7 cardinal for nan afloat year, representing 30% maturation complete afloat twelvemonth 2021.

Instrument gross was $11.1 cardinal for nan 4th fourth and $38.6 cardinal for nan afloat year, representing 35% maturation complete afloat twelvemonth 2021. We had different beardown 4th pinch 71 full instruments sold, of which 25 were PhenoCyclers and 46 were from nan PhenoImagers portfolio. We sold 237 instruments for nan afloat twelvemonth and ended 2022 pinch a full installed guidelines of 934 instruments, which includes 254 PhenoCyclers and 680 PhenoImagers.

As of yearend 2022, a full of 120 Fusion instruments person been shipped since nan afloat commercialized motorboat astatine nan commencement of nan twelvemonth and we now person a full installed guidelines of 105 for nan mixed PhenoCycler Fusion strategy sold either straight arsenic a mixed strategy aliases upgraded from a erstwhile standalone PhenoCycler instrument. The number of mixed units is an important metric, because this operation is projected to thrust important summation successful reagent pull-through complete nan adjacent fewer years.

Reagent gross was $4.5 cardinal for nan 4th fourth and $18.4 cardinal for nan afloat year, representing 29% maturation complete afloat twelvemonth 2021. In 2022, we knowledgeable immoderate FX headwinds successful Europe and COVID lockdowns successful China, which impacted our reagent revenue.

With an annualized pull-through successful nan mid-$30,000 scope per instrumentality for nan PhenoCycler and nan PhenoImager HT, we task nan pull-through to summation importantly by arsenic overmuch arsenic 2 times to 3 times complete nan adjacent respective years arsenic much PhenoCycler Fusion are up and running, on pinch our rollout of caller consumable offerings and instrumentality section upgrades.

With nan PhenoCycler Fusions shipped during nan early shape of nan motorboat for which researchers person been trained and are now actively utilizing for projects, we are already noticing important increases successful pull-through compared to PhenoCycler’s pinch third-party microscopes.

As researchers proceed to go afloat trained and nan installed guidelines of PhenoCycler Fusion is proceed to expand, we expect nan further acceleration successful throughput and exertion description to effect reagent pull-through moreover more.

The caller highly optimized PhenoCode signature panels and higher plex PhenoCode find panels, which will beryllium rolled retired passim 2023, will not only lend meaningfully to pull-through and accelerate clip to answer, but we’ll besides summation our stock of reagent gross arsenic nan panels are wholly offered done Akoya arsenic ready-to-use.

We proceed to target yearly reagent gross maturation of astir 40% per twelvemonth for nan adjacent respective years arsenic nan caller innovations deed a commercialized stride and our installed guidelines continues to quickly expand.

Services and different gross totaled $5.5 cardinal for nan 4th and $17.2 cardinal for nan afloat year, representing an summation of 65% complete afloat twelvemonth 2021.

Our Advanced BioPharma Solutions, CLIA Lab, continues to summation important traction pinch ample pharma and we besides signed different meaningful objective partnerships passim 2022, specified arsenic Acrivon Therapeutics and Agilent.

Gross profit was $12 cardinal successful nan 4th fourth and $43.4 cardinal for nan afloat year, representing afloat twelvemonth gross separator of 58%. We proceed to make investments successful nan CLIA Service Lab to support objective proceedings enrollment, which has a near-term effect connected margins arsenic we build retired these objective people capabilities. We person besides knowledgeable immoderate effect connected separator from inflationary costs pressures, accordant pinch what astir different companies are experiencing.

Operating expenses for nan 4th totaled $29.6 cardinal and $109.5 cardinal for nan afloat year. With important investments connected business description efforts passim 2022, we person laid nan groundwork for nan commercialized rollout of nan PhenoCode panels passim nan year, section upgrades for nan PhenoCycler Fusion, collaborated package description and a afloat end-to-end find to objective workflow. Our scheme for 2023 includes making much targeted investments successful areas that will make nan highest returns arsenic we create a way to profitability complete nan adjacent respective years.

We ended nan 4th pinch astir $81 cardinal of rate and marketable securities and $11 cardinal successful further indebtedness capacity. We proceed to return a balanced attack to accessing superior arsenic needed to guarantee we support our exceptional maturation passim 2023.

Common shares outstanding are $38.3 cardinal arsenic of December 31st and afloat diluted shares, including nan effect of outstanding options and unvested restricted banal awards totals $38.9 million.

To summarize, we had different record-breaking 4th pinch $21.2 cardinal successful gross and $74.9 cardinal for afloat twelvemonth 2022, 36% maturation complete nan anterior year. We sold 71 instruments crossed nan merchandise portfolio this quarter, 237 instruments passim 2022 and now person a full installed guidelines of 934 instruments, nan largest successful nan industry. The shipment of 120 Fusions successful nan first twelvemonth since nan motorboat demonstrates nan robust request for our caller instrumentality offering.

Now pinch 772 publications featuring Akoya’s level arsenic of year-end 2022, we stay very assured successful our expertise to present continued maturation successful 2023 pinch nan take of our existent level and caller commercialized merchandise rollouts.

At this time, we are providing a preliminary gross guidance scope of $95 cardinal to $98 cardinal for 2023 arsenic we proceed to spot tailwinds for our business and nan spatial biology market. We task that seasonality will beryllium accordant pinch anterior years pinch Q1 having nan lowest quarterly gross and Q4 having nan highest.

Now I’ll move it backmost complete to Brian for closing remarks.

Brian McKelligon

Thank you, Joe. We’re pleased to study a beardown 4th and afloat twelvemonth performance. We announced aggregate breathtaking caller partnerships and developments crossed nan portfolio and we’ll look guardant to executing them passim nan year.

We’re thankful for nan difficult activity of our chap dedicated Akoyans, arsenic good arsenic for nan support of our customers and shareholders. Akoya remains very good positioned for maturation and we’re excited astir nan opportunities that dishonesty up arsenic we present caller spatial solutions from nan find to nan objective markets.

And astatine this point, we will unfastened up nan telephone for questions. Operator?

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first mobility comes from nan of John Sourbeer of UBS. Your statement is open.

John Sourbeer

Hi. Congrats connected nan decorativeness for nan twelvemonth and acknowledgment for taking nan question.

Brian McKelligon

Thanks, John.

John Sourbeer

Just connected nan 2023 guidance, immoderate colour conscionable connected really to deliberation astir instrumentality pull-through and consumable operation done nan twelvemonth and what’s really embedded successful guidance there? And past if you look backmost astatine nan customers that adopted nan Fusion successful nan first half of 2020, 2022, do you deliberation that astir of these customers person now started to deed that afloat utilization aliases conscionable really do we deliberation astir those dynamics and what’s embedded?

Brian McKelligon

Just to explain nan 2nd portion of your question, you’re referencing those customers that person nan caller PhenoCycler Fusion?

John Sourbeer

Yeah. That’s correct.

Brian McKelligon

Yeah. Let maine return that 2nd portion and Joe tin springiness qualitatively connected nan 2023 pinch nan caveat that to-date we’ve only really guided connected nan number. I conjecture what I would opportunity successful position of nan aggregate PhenoCycler personification base, recognizing that we launched successful March, we really started shipping successful bulk a twelvemonth agone pinch really beardown capacity passim nan year.

So if you benignant of mean successful presume it takes a quarter, sometimes excessively for group to get up and running, I would opportunity we astir apt don’t person nan mostly of those PhenoCycler Fusion personification customers astatine afloat stride conscionable yet fixed really agelong it takes.

And fixed that if you benignant of mean successful that full number that we’ve sold, we’re astir apt little than halfway location successful position of afloat strategy utilization and past nan aggregate effect that those higher throughput users person connected nan full resin number, but besides connected nan mean pull-through. Does that makes sense.

John Sourbeer

All right. That makes sense.

Brian McKelligon

Yeah.

John Sourbeer

And I conjecture conscionable a follow-up. You ended nan twelvemonth pinch $81 cardinal successful rate connected hand. Any conscionable colour astir nan rate pain and past immoderate imaginable financing plans?

Brian McKelligon

Yeah. Let maine talk connected that, and then, Joe, I didn’t springiness Joe a chance to talk a small spot astir nan first portion of your mobility connected 2023. Yeah, $81 cardinal rate connected manus pinch $11 cardinal further indebtedness capacity, and again, arsenic Joe noted, a much targeted investments this twelvemonth pinch higher revenues to little burn. So we’re successful a really coagulated rate position correct now. But Joe, you tin adhd a small spot much colour there, if you’d like, but besides reside John’s mobility astir 2023 and immoderate further color.

Joe Driscoll

Yeah. I deliberation your reply connected rate is spot on. In position of nan guidance for adjacent year, nan $95 cardinal to $98 million, we don’t break down nan guidance by individual categories. But nan measurement we deliberation astir reagents, for example, is that location will beryllium a build passim nan twelvemonth arsenic we rotation retired caller products, arsenic much and much customers get up and moving connected nan PhenoCycler Fusion.

So I deliberation you could deliberation astir pull-through arsenic being a gradual summation quarter-after-quarter, that mixed pinch nan summation successful nan number of instruments that we sell, that’s what hopefully will get america to that 40% maturation number for reagents. That’s our soul target anyways.

John Sourbeer

Got it. Thanks for taking nan questions.

Brian McKelligon

Thanks, John.

Operator

Thank you. One moment, please. Our adjacent mobility comes from nan statement of Kyle Mikson of Canaccord. Your statement is open.

Kyle Mikson

Hey. Thanks guys for nan questions. Yeah. Congrats connected nan year. Great outlook arsenic well. Maybe look a multipart financial mobility to commencement past a follow-up question. So connected pull-through, actually, conscionable connected your past point, Joe. I mean it sounds for illustration it’s going to proceed to increase. I mean, you said 30,000 though, still, I mean, I’ve heard that for a fewer years, I consciousness like, I mean, what’s stopping customers from really utilizing nan boxes more. Okay, conscionable -- I deliberation that would person accrued aliases astatine slightest accelerated benignant of recently. And past you conscionable mentioned, Joe, this 40% maturation complaint going guardant and I deliberation for illustration complete 50-50 operation pinch consumables and instruments would beryllium bully arsenic well. I mean tin you benignant of do that if pull-through remains successful this 30%, 40% benignant of range? Thanks.

Brian McKelligon

So nan -- successful position of nan pull-through, I think, are you saying really do we get to 40% reagent growth?

Kyle Mikson

Yeah.

Brian McKelligon

Is that...

Kyle Mikson

Is a foretell based connected -- yeah, is simply a foretell based connected nan 30,000 aliases does it person to grow to immoderate different higher level?

Brian McKelligon

It would person to expand, but not a tremendous amount. So alternatively of nan benignant of nan mid-30 range, mid $30,000 scope per instrument, you’re talking astir benignant of debased $40,000 scope per instrument. That mixed pinch nan summation successful nan number of instruments retired there, that will get you -- that will get nan reagent numbers that we’re talking about. So it’s not for illustration it has to spell from mid-30,000s to 50,000 successful 2023 to make that benignant of number arsenic agelong arsenic nan instrumentality number hangs successful there.

Kyle Mikson

Okay. And then, Brian, conscionable connected my first portion of nan question, but that was astir benignant of for illustration what’s preventing customers from really cranking up nan usage of nan boxes. I cognize you person these caller products coming retired that should summation pull-through going forward. But I mean, to-date, though, for illustration what’s been immoderate of the...

Brian McKelligon

If you conscionable -- if you look backmost historically connected benignant of an yearly basis, Kyle. And Joe tin support maine honorable connected nan numbers present and granted these are somewhat contaminated by COVID. I deliberation if you spell backmost astir 2019, 2020, nan pull-through for nan PhenoCycler connected third-party scopes went from for illustration 20 aliases truthful up to 30. And now we’re starting to spot that amongst nan PhenoCycler users customers spell beyond 30.

So we’re already seeing that trend. It’s conscionable a matter, Kyle, arsenic you look crossed nan 254 PhenoCycler that are retired there. A number person nan Fusion attached to it. So that’s already starting to effect nan wide pull-through number into nan mid-30,000s for nan PhenoCycler. So we’re starting to spot that effect statesman to hap already for nan FUSION, coupled to what we’ve seen historically that pull-through climb successful a much gradual mode up to nan 30,000 aliases truthful wherever it was that we articulated connected our past Q call. And conscionable 1 other…

Kyle Mikson

Thank.

Brian McKelligon

One different quick…

Kyle Mikson

Yeah.

Brian McKelligon

… point, nan COVID lockdowns successful China did deed our reagent gross successful 2022 and that’s portion of nan pull-through calculation is full reagent revenue. So if that didn’t happen, our reagent gross would person evidently been $1 cardinal positive higher successful 2022.

Kyle Mikson

Okay. No Thanks, guys. I will inquire conscionable 1 follow-up here. Bigger picture, a very benignant of apical question, obviously. You did a awesome -- you had a awesome 4th pinch placements, I think, astatine slightest 70 aliases truthful and I deliberation thing -- doesn’t look for illustration thing slow down successful position of customers getting benignant of distracted by nan Imager is benignant of for illustration motorboat astatine nan extremity of nan 4th quarter. But what are you seeing benignant of recently, I guess, these products are caller successful nan market. I’m alert of a fewer folks that are evidently buying these Imagers. Is that impacting your expertise to benignant of get successful beforehand of customers and perchance adjacent deals?

Brian McKelligon

Yeah. It’s a bully question. So pinch nan motorboat of nan competing Imager products, nan Cosmic, nan Zenium [ph], it really hasn’t impacted our pipeline and our instrumentality capacity astatine all. The COSMIC is not a caller event, because they’ve been reselling that passim nan twelvemonth and Zenium is reasonably new.

I still think, Kyle, that’s mostly wrong nan genomics find conception and fixed wherever we compete successful discovery, but each nan measurement done to nan translational and objective side, we’re still really not emotion immoderate competitory impacts from them. Now arsenic we motorboat our RNA and we commencement participating much and much successful that genomic segment, I think, we mightiness person much colour connected that, because I deliberation we’ll beryllium much straight competing.

Kyle Mikson

Right. Yeah. That past portion is important, Brian. Thanks a batch for that.

Brian McKelligon

All right.

Kyle Mikson

I’m going to hop off. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

Brian McKelligon

Thanks, Kyle.

Operator

Thank you. One moment, please. Our adjacent mobility comes from nan statement of Mason Carrico of Stephens. Your statement is open.

Mason Carrico

Hey, guys. Thanks for nan question. Congrats connected a beardown 2022. Maybe conscionable starting pinch reagent gross during nan quarter. I deliberation it came successful somewhat lighter than we were modeling. Could you grow connected immoderate of nan dynamics that played retired specifically successful nan 4th quarter? I cognize you called retired immoderate factors that weighed connected this gross successful 2022. But I conjecture conscionable immoderate incremental colour connected what played retired during Q4 and if immoderate of those dynamics person continued successful 2023?

Brian McKelligon

Yeah. Joe tin reside that. I mean, but there’s a batch of contributing factors. Maybe, Joe, you tin talk to you a small spot of those.

Joe Driscoll

Yeah. I deliberation it’s beautiful overmuch what we’ve talked astir already. The COVID lockdowns successful China, that was a problem from Q2 done Q4, immoderate softness successful Europe pinch rate issues, benignant of held backmost immoderate spending. So I don’t deliberation it was immoderate 1 thing. But arsenic we’ve rolled into Q1, we’ve decidedly seen bid volumes prime up truthful -- versus Q4. So I deliberation we’re going to beryllium good successful 2023 successful position of reagent performance.

Brian McKelligon

And past location is still...

Mason Carrico

Got it.

Brian McKelligon

Look, there’s still a small spot of lumpiness successful nan gross realization wrong each quarter, but almost surely besides connected nan comps from nan anterior year.

Mason Carrico

Got it. Okay. Perfect. Thanks. And connected nan macro environment, are you still seeing an elongation successful superior acquisition clip lines, and arsenic we benignant of deliberation astir nan 2023 guide, has immoderate conservatism been baked successful astir that move this year? How are you reasoning astir it?

Brian McKelligon

So I’ll make a remark and past Joe tin adhd on. Where we saw immoderate description of superior acquisition timelines and support strings was successful EMEA. But it didn’t person a worldly effect connected nan 4th aliases moreover looking forward. It’s conscionable really a move that we person to beryllium cognizant to negociate and arsenic we’re including that successful 2023, we did not. But nan different conception that we did talk astir was still reasonably anemic reagent revenue, albeit coming backmost slow successful China. I deliberation we still contemplating immoderate of that. Joe, do you want to adhd immoderate much color?

Joe Driscoll

Yeah. Just, overall, we’re not anticipating a monolithic economical turnaround successful our 2023 guide. I conjecture nan guideline that we’ve fixed presumes that things are benignant of going to beryllium what they are correct now successful position of wide macro environment. So we’ll evidently support a adjacent oculus connected that. But that’s benignant of our basal assumption.

Mason Carrico

Got it. That’s helpful. Thanks, guys.

Brian McKelligon

Thanks, Mason.

Operator

Thank you. One moment, please. Our adjacent mobility comes from nan statement Tejas Savant of Morgan Stanley. Your statement is open.

Tejas Savant

Hey, guys. Good evening. Thanks for nan clip here. Brian, possibly to footwear things disconnected 1 for you. So different than scheduling, wherever do things guidelines and what remains to beryllium done for nan Fusion 2.0 rollout. I deliberation you mentioned you expect that to commencement successful 2Q. And past by erstwhile do you expect to beryllium done pinch those section upgrades? And then, Joe, arsenic a follow-up to that, is nan summation successful throughput that nan Fusion 2.0 enables, I think, it said from 10 to 20 to 30 samples. To what grade is that benignant of baked into your guideline astatine nan midpoint?

Brian McKelligon

So I’ll return that first portion and past Joe tin talk astir really that impacts nan guide. So nan 2.0 is simply a section upgrade that will statesman adjacent quarter. And location was conscionable immoderate final, I would telephone it, a validation of verification activity benignant of nan last stages of being development. There’s not immoderate benignant of method consequence associated pinch that. So, again, really modular merchandise improvement methodologies.

And conscionable reminding you that Fusion 2.0 is going to meet nan requirements for nan multi-slide carrier, immoderate improvements to nan operating package and nan reagents, but also, arsenic noted successful nan commentary, nan RNAscope for -- and besides for early RNA. So that will each hap successful Q2.

In position of -- for nan existing customers, really agelong will it take, that’s a really bully question. Obviously, we want to do it arsenic accelerated arsenic we can. I would say, nan shortest would beryllium six months to 9 months. It could possibly return a small spot longer than that, depending upon customer preparedness and whether aliases not it would interrupt existing studies.

Joe Driscoll

And connected your mobility astir what is baked into nan guide. So we’re really looking astatine going from nan mid-$30,000 per instrumentality connected mean to nan debased $40,000 connected average. And really, there’s a wide array of customers successful that mix, right? Some do very little. Some are doing $200,000 per instrumentality per year. So that’s really what’s baked into nan guideline correct now and it seems very achievable from wherever we beryllium correct now.

Tejas Savant

Got it. Okay. And past connected nan PhenoCode panels, akin benignant of mobility really. You talked astir really beardown traction location astatine AGBT, arsenic good arsenic nan upcoming launches complete nan people of nan twelvemonth connected nan find side. How overmuch of that is benignant of for illustration factored into nan guideline here?

Joe Driscoll

Not a tremendous amount. It’s surely a portion of nan guide, but you’re talking astir $1 cardinal aliases $2 cardinal for nan full year.

Tejas Savant

Got it. Okay. That’s helpful. And past connected nan multiomic front, Brian…

Brian McKelligon

Yeah.

Tejas Savant

… is early entree benignant of eminent successful position of that 100 plex sheet rollout. Can you conscionable punctual america again really precocious could macromolecule plex spell connected that panel? And past by erstwhile do you expect to get co-detection and early access, I judge this was -- nan first type is going to beryllium sequential sections of nan data, is that right?

Brian McKelligon

Yeah. So we’ll commencement pinch sequential, whether aliases not we do early entree for illustration via services, we’re still benignant of debating whether aliases not we person to do that, because again, arsenic we talked about, we will person astir apt by nan clip it comes out, 300 boxes successful nan market, we conscionable want to make judge that we’re benignant of commercially fresh for nan high-plex RNA and high-plex macromolecule connected these serial sections. But, again, arsenic you noted, nan multiomics will travel earlier.

In position of really precocious tin we spell connected nan protein, we benignant of deliberation -- there’s nary precocious limit, but there’s a scientifically reasonable limit and besides a costs limit. So I deliberation 100 plex is astir arsenic overmuch arsenic I deliberation we deliberation group request correct now. And conscionable by comparison, there’s been discussions retired amongst nan technological organization and others arsenic you deliberation astir comparative plex betwixt RNA and pricing.

And there’s commentary that successful position of technological value, a macromolecule tin be, say, 5/10 equivalents of RNA fixed that benignant of a nonstop measurement of nan activity. So we deliberation 100-plex macromolecule is astir apt wherever we’re going to enactment for a while and past nan RNA will beryllium benignant of location akin into that scope versus serial and past multiomic.

Tejas Savant

Got it. That’s helpful. And then, Joe, backmost to you for your comments astir conscionable taking a much targeted attack to investments. Are location immoderate guiderails you tin put astir benignant of OpEx vis-à-vis past year? I mean I deliberation your 4Q OpEx was a small spot higher than wherever we were by $2 cardinal aliases $3 million. Is that benignant of $30 million-ish tally complaint a bully benchmark to usage erstwhile you deliberation astir 2023?

Joe Driscoll

Yes. So, I would say, we’re going to prosecute group successful 2023, but benignant of dispersed passim nan year. It’s not going to beryllium a monolithic number of people. So I deliberation you could look astatine thing for illustration $30 cardinal successful Q1 and past possibly it goes up $0.5 cardinal each 4th passim nan year, thing for illustration that.

Tejas Savant

Perfect. Very helpful. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

Brian McKelligon

Thanks, Tejas.

Operator

Thank you. One moment, please. Our adjacent mobility comes from nan statement of Mark Massaro of BTIG. Your statement is open.

Mark Massaro

Hey, guys. Thank you for nan question. Congrats connected a beardown year. So a batch has been asked, but I’m funny if you could remark astir immoderate of nan economics pinch respect to nan PhenoCycler Fusion 2.0. I don’t judge you’re looking to thrust incremental economics connected that instrumentality comparative to nan 1.0. Can you conscionable explain that? And past I conjecture what I’m really trying to find is nan guideline does not look for illustration location is simply a important step-up arsenic a consequence of caller products. And truthful Joe, I admit your commentary astir $1 cardinal to $2 cardinal connected nan PhenoCode panels. But different than possibly negligible gross publication for nan PhenoCycler Fusion 2.0 upgrade, is it adjacent to opportunity that you’re baking successful a very humble publication each successful from caller products successful 2023?

Brian McKelligon

I deliberation immoderate -- a batch of it is -- acknowledgment for nan question, Mark. Maybe your first part. So nan 2.0, nan ASP is nan aforesaid of nan versions built and shipped pinch and past nan early -- without and nan early versus pinch 2.0. So we’re not -- there’s not a value summation because of nan 2.0, if that was your mobility connected nan instrument. And then…

Mark Massaro

Yes.

Brian McKelligon

Okay.

Mark Massaro

Yeah.

Brian McKelligon

And past successful position of nan NPIs, you tin spot that these are opening this 4th and passim nan year. And these are continuous rollouts of further panels, upgrades to systems, package partnerships and it’s each really centered astir an accelerating realization of these complete time.

So I deliberation you person to possibly propulsion nan affinture backmost extracurricular of a azygous 4th and nan thesis present is each of these improvements that we’ve outlined are really nan drivers getting that pull-through from its existent level to nan debased 40s to nan debased 50s, et cetera.

So this is benignant of nan soul model aliases OS wrong Akoya to thrust these continuous improvements from workflow, to content, to package partnerships, truthful you tin do much samples per portion time, faster clip to answer. So nan realization is not a azygous binary event, but alternatively successful aggregate complete time.

Mark Massaro

Okay. That makes sense.

Joe Driscoll

Hey, Mark. Yeah.

Mark Massaro

Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead, Joe.

Joe Driscoll

To adhd connected to that, fundamentally seeing what Brian conscionable said, but nan 2.0 upgrade successful and of itself doesn’t make dollars, but it helps that reagent pull-through. That’s really wherever nan dollars are going to come. So it’s not needfully caller products that are delivering that revenue, but it’s -- nan 2.0 upgrade is helping america thrust that reagent gross to a overmuch higher level.

Mark Massaro

Right. And conscionable to clarify, that reagent gross maturation target is astir 40% this year, correct?

Joe Driscoll

Correct. Yes.

Mark Massaro

Okay. We’ve seen immoderate different devices companies sometimes person push pulls betwixt nan razor/razor leaf publication and nan services contribution. But successful your case, we’re really not seeing that. So you drove a beardown 65% maturation year-over-year successful services past year. I think, historically, you’ve talked astir a services target of successful nan 30% to 40% range. Recognizing that you conscionable did 65%, are location immoderate qualitative factors possibly that would propose immoderate reasons why that maturation complaint is apt to mean different than conscionable challenging comps?

Brian McKelligon

Maybe, Joe, you could picture benignant of what’s successful that and past I tin return a…

Joe Driscoll

Yeah.

Brian McKelligon

… circumstantial commentary astir nan Lab Services specifically.

Joe Driscoll

Right. So our services are going to person different bully twelvemonth successful 2023. What we person successful that bucket correct now is really nan CLIA Lab, which is doing projects for ample pharma and I’ll fto Brian remark immoderate much connected that. That’s been going very well. We’ve sewage a 2nd services laboratory that focuses connected PhenoCycler projects, truthful early shape find projects.

And now we besides -- successful that bucket, we besides person CDx revenue. So this is nan Acrivon woody that we signed successful 2022. You’ve sewage a portion of that is successful our 2022 revenue, but much will beryllium successful 2023, nan milestones and things for illustration that, that we get for doing nan Acrivon deal. So those 3 pieces are really nan bulk of that services revenue. So 2023 should beryllium different bully maturation twelvemonth for services.

Brian McKelligon

And past again, conscionable to spell backmost to -- arsenic promised, Mark. So Lab Services includes moving pinch nan biopharma groups really to thrust take successful early translational each nan measurement done objective proceedings studies and those were nan services that Joe conscionable alluded to. But it besides includes nan gross that’s realized successful doing our business arsenic besides arsenic a Lab Service done Acrivon, wherever we person these milestone-based -- milestone-driven these gross milestones that we achieved passim past twelvemonth and this year, that’s besides included wrong that and that helps explicate Mark, why that number has grown truthful much, because of nan occurrence of some of those efforts.

Mark Massaro

Okay. Excellent. And past 1 for me. Joe, I think, I heard you opportunity that you’re seeing volumes prime up nicely present successful Q1. So reagents are disconnected to a bully start. It doesn’t look for illustration there’s a immense needfully a situation pinch respect to backing aliases budgets astatine nan customer level. But possibly tin you conscionable speak to immoderate conversations you’re having astir forecasting orders passim nan people of nan twelvemonth and whether aliases not you’re seeing issues pinch budgets?

Joe Driscoll

We person not seen immoderate issues pinch budgets. Really, nan only hiccup we had successful 2022 is really things for illustration COVID lockdowns, which we really can’t control. But different than that, different than different things for illustration that, budgets look to beryllium good and backmost to normal.

Brian McKelligon

And Mark, a batch of what -- a batch of nan macro commentary astir biopharma backing is really what -- nan discussions person been astir nan smaller emerging biopharma this twelvemonth aliases nan second portion of past twelvemonth comparative to 2020 and 2021.

And 2 comments connected that. That’s really not a meaningful percent of our customer base. We’re mostly dealing pinch a multinational biopharma who person seen benignant of a tremendous surge successful R&D spend, peculiarly arsenic their COVID walk has muted. So I don’t really deliberation that nan biopharma commentary is not restructure mini pharma has not really impacted us.

And again, ample pharma backing successful position of their R&D has been beautiful darn strong, peculiarly successful oncology, wherever you’ve sewage objective tests up thing for illustration -- it’s for illustration 38% of each objective trials, a 10% CAGR, which is really wherever we play pinch our HT system.

Mark Massaro

Excellent. That each makes sense. Thanks for nan color.

Joe Driscoll

Thanks, Mark.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] One moment, please. Our adjacent mobility comes from David Westenberg of Piper Sandler. Your statement is open.

David Westenberg

Hey, guys. Congrats connected different coagulated people and a awesome guide. I’m going to inquire Joe that commentary astir nan 30,000 to 2x, 3x that. Can you conscionable springiness america much colour connected what you talk -- are you talking astir nan full PhenoCycler Fusion guidelines aliases is that nan 1 erstwhile they person aliases sorry, PhenoCycler guidelines aliases is that conscionable pinch nan Fusion and really should we deliberation astir nan full guidelines successful that ramp? Just a explanation connected your…

Brian McKelligon

Yeah. So..

David Westenberg

… commentary there.

Brian McKelligon

Yeah. Our commentary and that’s really a multiyear commentary that we’re talking astir 2 times to 3 times complete a respective twelvemonth period. But this full process is simply a building process quarter-by-quarter aliases year-by-year.

Really, nan cardinal to get nan wide PhenoCycler Fusion number up is to proceed to modulation arsenic galore customers arsenic imaginable from conscionable a PhenoCycler a PhenoCycler Fusion. That’s really were partway done that full process of converting those customers to promote them to bargain a fusion. So that’s really a portion of nan equation.

And if we get nan mostly of PhenoCycler customers to displacement to a PhenoCycler Fusion, that’s really you’ll get those kinds of numbers of, connected average, $60,000 per year, $70,000 per year. But it will return aggregate years to get there.

Joe Driscoll

Just to make sure, David, that maturation -- that is nan full mean amongst our PhenoCycler personification base.

Brian McKelligon

Right.

Joe Driscoll

Yes.

David Westenberg

Got it. Yeah. That past portion -- convey you very much, because that past portion is really what I was going to inquire astir really you came up pinch precisely that number.

Brian McKelligon

Yeah.

David Westenberg

So I admit nan colour there. Now tin you conscionable -- 1 much portion to this small part, are you seeing much take aliases tin you talk astir nan percent of take from PhenoCycler who get nan microscope? Is this almost each of them? And past successful position of retroactive placements, I mean, really acold do we person to go? What’s nan benignant of nan extremity penetration complaint of that? I’m assuming it wouldn’t beryllium 100% but could beryllium adjacent to 100% and wherever we are that successful position of nan penetration rate?

Brian McKelligon

Yeah. I’ll return that past portion and past Joe tin springiness you a small spot much color. You’re right, it astir apt won’t spell each nan measurement to 100%, because location are immoderate location are immoderate labs that are -- that preferentially usage immoderate third-party microscopes, but that’s a really -- that’s going to beryllium a very complete time, decreasing a beautiful mini percent of nan total. But Joe tin speak to benignant of wherever we are successful position of nan penetration amongst our existing personification guidelines and benignant of nan attachment we spot going guardant for caller customers.

Joe Driscoll

Yeah. The connect rate, and erstwhile we opportunity connect rate, we mean each clip personification buys a PhenoCycler, really often are they buying a Fusion astatine nan aforesaid time. It’s really good. We initially modeled it astatine 55% aliases 60% connect rate. It’s coming successful 80% positive correct now.

I deliberation customers really spot nan worth of buying nan 2 instruments together. And truthful we -- from what we tin tell, location will beryllium immoderate group who still only bargain a PhenoCycler without nan Fusion, but that’s going to beryllium nan number of people. So I deliberation 80% is simply a bully number to spell pinch for now.

Brian McKelligon

And past for nan existing installed base, David, we’re little than halfway there. I’d say, directionally, telephone it, 40% aliases so, possibly 30%, 40% of nan full customer guidelines that had nan PhenoCycler earlier nan Fusion came out, now has a Fusion. So we still person a batch of headroom…

David Westenberg

Okay.

Brian McKelligon

… to upgrade existing customers.

David Westenberg

I appreciate. I’ll inquire nan remainder offline. Thank you.

B

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment, please. Our adjacent mobility comes from nan statement of Tim Chiang of Capital One. Your statement is open.

Tim Chiang

Well, yea, thanks. Brian and Joe, I think, location person been a batch of questions conscionable astir pull-through, nan effect of nan caller Fusion 2.0 motorboat and besides really that will use your reagent business. Is this benignant of a lag effect successful position of erstwhile you expect a ramp pinch nan reagent broadside of nan business arsenic much of nan Fusions person complete to nan 2.0?

Brian McKelligon

Well, yeah, there’s -- I mean, there’s ever a lag effect pinch immoderate NPI caller merchandise introduction. And truthful nan modular benignant of instrumentality utilization lag, and I opportunity standard, because doing this for 30 years, it’s beautiful overmuch formulaic wherever customer buys an instrument, first aviator tally successful Q2 and successful nan first quarter, their assessments happened successful nan 2nd quarter, and past coming retired of that into nan 3rd quarter, they commencement to get existent productive use, right? That’s a emblematic rhythm for an instrument.

So that is simply a lag. We’re now starting to spot realized connected nan Fusion arsenic it impacts our full pull-through fixed nan PhenoCycler Fusion customers person higher pull-through than nan PhenoCyclers alone. So that lag is astir surely real.

And past you person an take rhythm pinch immoderate caller exertion aliases assay connected that very strategy itself. So that is astir apt mostly shorter, because you’re dealing pinch an instrumentality that’s fresh to drawback those caller panels correct distant aliases that caller applications if it was RNA. So, yeah, location is simply a lag effect amongst each of these. That’s why we’ve talked astir this build complete clip of pull-through.

Tim Chiang

Great. And possibly conscionable 1 follow-up, Brian. You signed this business pinch Agilent astatine nan opening of nan year, really meaningful do you deliberation this business will person -- what benignant of effect do you deliberation it will person connected your PhenoImager HT instrument?

Brian McKelligon

Yeah. The effect is going to beryllium an description of projects that our pharma partners instrumentality connected nan HT. That’s going to beryllium nan first effect and that’s not thing that we will needfully quantify externally, because we’re already seeing that happen. And that’s because of nan objective workflow that they support and nan expertise that they bring to nan array and leverage that workflow on pinch our expertise connected nan HP. That is nan impact.

Now that whitethorn consequence successful -- it should consequence successful a overmuch much robust pipeline, some for nan HT strategy itself, nan caller panels that we’re launching, but besides for our Lab Services business, because it’s going to galvanize these further projects successful nan work CLIA Lab arsenic well.

Tim Chiang

Got it. And Joe, conscionable 1 past question. Gross profit margins astir 57%. I mean, is that a beautiful bully starting number for 2023 and conscionable benignant of wondering really that benignant of progresses arsenic nan twelvemonth rolls out?

Joe Driscoll

Yes. We would task that, that number is going to spell up successful 2023. One of nan keys for gross separator is getting much reagent business. So we’ve talked a batch astir reagents present today. That’s really nan cardinal to driving that gross separator percent higher. But we are projecting that we’re going to do amended than what we did successful 2022.

Tim Chiang

Right. And your gross margins connected nan reagent business are astir 80%. That’s right?

Joe Driscoll

Yeah. Mid-70%s. Yeah.

Tim Chiang

Mid-70%s. Okay. Great. Super. Thanks much.

Joe Driscoll

Thanks.

Operator

I’m showing nary further questions astatine this time. I’d for illustration to move nan telephone backmost complete to Brian McKelligon for immoderate closing remarks.

Brian McKelligon

Well, yeah, conscionable we’re astatine nan apical of nan hour. So conscionable I wanted to convey everybody for their time, their attention, their support and we look guardant to pursuing up pinch each of you. So convey you everyone.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does reason today’s conference. Thank you each for participating. You whitethorn now disconnect. Have a awesome day.