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Airbus SE (OTCPK:EADSF) Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call February 16, 2023 1:30 AM ET

Company Participants

Helene Le Gorgeu - Investor Relations

Guillaume Faury - Chief Executive Officer

Dominik Asam - Chief Financial Officer

Conference Call Participants

Daniela Costa - Goldman Sachs

Robert Stallard - Vertical Research

Doug Harned - Bernstein

Olivier Brochet - Redburn

Chloe Lemarie - Jefferies

Tristan Sanson - BNP Paribas Exane

Milene Kerner - Barclays

David Perry - JPMorgan

Harry Breach - Stifel

Christophe Menard - Deutsche Bank

Ian Douglas-Pennant - UBS

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, convey you for opinionated by. Welcome to nan Airbus Full Year 2022 Results Release Conference Call. I americium Melanie, nan usability for this conference. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would for illustration to move nan convention complete to your host, Guillaume Faury, Dominik Asam and Helene Le Gorgeu.

Helene Le Gorgeu

Thank you, Melanie. Good greeting ladies and gentlemen. This is nan Airbus afloat twelvemonth 2022 results merchandise convention call. Guillaume Faury, our CEO and Dominik Asam, our CFO will beryllium presenting our results and answering your questions. This telephone is planned to past astir 1 hr and 15 minutes. This includes Q&A, which we will behaviour aft nan first presentation. This telephone is besides webcast. It tin beryllium accessed via our location page by clicking connected nan dedicated banner. Playback of this telephone will beryllium accessible connected nan website, but location is nary dedicated telephone replay service.

The supporting accusation package was published connected our website earlier today. It includes nan slides, which we will now return you through, arsenic good arsenic nan financial statements. Throughout this call, we will beryllium making forward-looking statements. I induce you to mention to our safe harbor connection that appears successful nan position slides, which applies to this telephone arsenic well. Please publication it carefully.

And now complete to Guillaume.

Guillaume Faury

Thank you, Helene, and bully morning, everyone. Thank you for joining america early this greeting for our afloat twelvemonth 2022 results call. I americium happy to beryllium coming present successful Toulouse pinch Dominik to tally you done our results. Again, successful 2022, we faced an adverse operating environment. On the 1 hand, past year, resoundingly confirmed that group want to alert and they do truthful moreover astatine higher summons prices. Airlines person returned to semipermanent fleet readying and are preparing for semipermanent growth.

In this context, pinch nan reconfirmed semipermanent visibility connected demand, we decided past period to ramp up our A320 family to a monthly accumulation complaint of 75% successful nan mediate of nan decade. On nan different hand, 2022 has besides been a twelvemonth of aggregate disruptions, chiefly driven by nan cumulative impacts of COVID and nan Russian penetration of Ukraine, world sanctions, nan power crisis, aggravated already existing tensions connected logistics, materials, components and besides skilled workforce.

Our proviso chain, facing these different terrible circumstances, did not retrieve astatine nan gait we had anticipated. As a consequence, we had to accommodate our operations and nan associated accumulation scheme for nan year, yet starring to our December announcement. I person to opportunity nan business has been rather frustrating past year. Obviously, we were not satisfied pinch nan number of craft we present successful nan end. As you know, successful Q4, we delivered 226 commercialized craft taking our afloat twelvemonth 2022 deliveries to 661 aircraft. While this represents an 8% summation compared to 2021, this is astir half nan summation we had initially planned. As you will spot erstwhile I travel to our guidance, this intends that it will return america 2 years to execute what we had planned to do successful one.

Nevertheless, we met our financial targets. For nan afloat twelvemonth 2022, our EBIT adjusted stood astatine €5.6 billion. Our EBIT adjusted reflects our deliveries, but besides our efforts connected competitiveness and further benefited from nan wide affirmative effect of non-recurring elements. Our free rate travel earlier M&A and customer financing stood astatine €4.7 billion, €4.7 cardinal and has been supported by a favorable overseas speech complaint situation arsenic good arsenic a beardown affirmative phasing effect from moving capital. These coagulated financial results pinch a nett income of €4.2 cardinal and assurance successful our early financial capacity underpin our dividend connection for 2022 of €1.80 per share. As we participate 2023, we spot beardown request successful each areas of our business, while astatine nan aforesaid clip we are facing persisting proviso tensions.

This year, we expect our commercialized craft transportation floor plan to beryllium backloaded again. In ray of ongoing geopolitical and macroeconomic turbulences, risks of further disruptions remain. Before we look astatine our commercialized environment, fto maine mention that nan 3-year proviso play nether nan position of nan deferred prosecution statement pinch a French alleged Parquet National Financier, nan UK SFO successful nan U.S. Department of Justice. This has ended connected nan January 31, 2023, a mates of weeks ago. We are awaiting nan general determination by nan authorities that Airbus has complied pinch nan position of nan GPAs and to adjacent nan prosecution against Airbus successful statement pinch nan requirements of each country. Airbus will proceed to meet its obligations nether nan consent agreement, extended until October 2023, arsenic mutually agreed pinch nan U.S. Department of State.

Let maine opportunity arsenic good that complete nan past years, we person implemented company-wide a beardown civilization and governance pinch respect to morals and compliance, which we will support and proceed to create going forward. Let’s now look astatine our commercialized environment. In 2022, commercialized aerial postulation continued to retrieve pinch home and location markets starring nan way. International postulation has progressively been closing nan gap, strengthening our assurance successful nan widebody segments outlook. Air recreation request came backmost moreover faster than we expected during summer, and nan inclination was confirmed by nan beardown activity astir nan extremity of nan year, wherever world postulation was already trending adjacent to erstwhile levels. The caller reopening of China is proving to beryllium a beardown affirmative driver for aerial postulation arsenic it progressively recovers. All regions should now converge towards normalized levels.

Let maine punctual you of our orders and backlog for nan year. We booked a full of 1,078 gross orders, of which 222 successful Q4. On widebodies, we booked 63 orders including 24 freighters and further progressed connected nan remarketing of our craft concerning nan expanding commercialized momentum connected widebodies. We saw 258 cancellations, of which only 49 successful Q4. The cancellation successful nan twelvemonth were already mostly anticipated and embedded successful our backlog valuation arsenic of year-end 2021. As a result, nett orders were affirmative astatine 820 aircraft, and our backlog successful units amounted to 7,239 craft astatine nan extremity of December 2022, including 6,093 A320 family craft for much than 6,000 for this family.

Our nett book to beryllium importantly supra 1, illustrates nan beardown appetite of our customers for our good positioned and diversified portfolio. This was erstwhile again evidenced by nan ample Air India order. We were honored to person earlier this week, which is evidently not yet reflected successful our bid book arsenic of nan extremity of December 2022. So, really honored by this honor. At book level, our backlog successful worth accrued to €449 cardinal to adjacent to €450 cardinal successful 2022, chiefly reflecting our book-to-bill supra 1 arsenic good arsenic nan strengthening of nan U.S. dollar. Our robust and diversified backlog would support nan company’s resilience successful lawsuit macroeconomic conditions were to deteriorate.

Looking astatine helicopters. In 2022, we booked 362 nett orders compared to €414 cardinal successful 2021, pinch a book-to-bill supra 1, some successful units and successful value, orders that – sorry, orders are good dispersed crossed programs and see 12 H160s for which we secured customers connected each targeted segments. 2022 was a coagulated year, I should say, a bully twelvemonth pinch ongoing marketplace betterment and affirmative momentum connected some civilian and subject markets.

Finally, successful Defense & Space, 2022 turned retired to beryllium a difficult twelvemonth successful a analyzable geopolitical and macroeconomic environment. Russia’s onslaught connected Ukraine had consequences that dispersed to galore sectors and businesses. One of nan nonstop consequences is nan nonaccomplishment of entree to nan Russian Soyuz launches. At nan aforesaid time, Ariane 6 is experiencing further delays and Vega C is temporarily grounded, sorry, pursuing nan motorboat nonaccomplishment successful December. All successful all, successful 2022, Europe has mislaid astir of its capacity to entree space. This is besides straight impacted. This besides straight impacted our Space business. In addition, crossed our Defense & Space division, nan rising ostentation impacted our semipermanent contracts, successful particular, nan A400M program, and we are not immune to disruptions successful nan proviso chain.

Still, we besides had immoderate successes, important ones. The Airbus built ESM, European work modules successfully bought NASA’s Orion spacecraft safely astir nan satellite and backmost home, and we secured important orders, specified arsenic nan FCAS early combater strategy demonstrates our Phase 1b and Eurodrone, 2 important quality programs for nan decades to come. they will beryllium captious for Europe’s information and strategical autonomy. We besides booked orders different orders, which will arsenic good play an important domiciled successful our early of business, specified arsenic nan statement to present 20 latest-generation Eurofighters to nan Spanish Air Force arsenic good arsenic nan renewal of 2 contracts for nan in-service support of nan Spanish fleet, nan bid by nan Republic of Indonesia for 2 Airbus A400M services, becoming effective, which makes Indonesia nan tenth usability of this craft and nan contracts to supply 2 high-performance optical Earth study satellites and services to. This confirms nan assurance of our customers successful our institution and products and takes our bid intake to €13.7 billion, corresponding to a book-to-bill of astir 1.2.

Now Dominik will return you done our financials.

Dominik Asam

Thank you, Guillaume, and bully morning, ladies and gentlemen. Our fiscal twelvemonth 2022 revenues accrued to €58.8 billion, up 13% year-on-year chiefly reflecting nan higher number of commercialized craft deliveries, higher contributions from our divisions and nan appreciation of nan U.S. dollar. Our fiscal twelvemonth EBIT adjusted accrued to €5.6 cardinal up from €4.9 cardinal successful nan anterior year. The year-on-year betterment successful our EBIT adjusted is chiefly driven by nan commercialized craft transportation increase, partially offset by a somewhat little favorable hedge complaint versus fiscal twelvemonth 2021. It besides includes immoderate non-recurring elements. As you mightiness recall, successful nan first 9 months, we recorded a non-recurring affirmative constituent of €4.4 cardinal related to status obligations, partially offset by €0.1 cardinal antagonistic effect resulting from world sanctions against Russia.

In Q4, we made advancement connected our compliance-related topics, which allowed america to merchandise provisions for an magnitude of €0.3 billion, while nan nonaccomplishment of 2 Pleiades Neo satellites resulted successful a antagonistic effect of €0.2 billion. While we continued to use from our assets and competitiveness, nan investments successful preparing nan future, successful particular, our decarbonization efforts and ramp-up are now materializing successful our costs base. This is peculiarly visible successful our R&D expenses, which stood astatine €3.1 cardinal successful 2022 versus €2.7 cardinal successful 2021. Our fiscal twelvemonth net per stock adjusted stood astatine €5.15 based connected an mean of 787 cardinal shares. Our fiscal twelvemonth free rate travel earlier M&A and customer financing was a grounds €4.7 billion, supported by moving superior upside and nan appreciation of nan U.S. dollar.

Now connected to nan adjacent descent regarding our profitability. Fiscal twelvemonth 2022 EBIT reported was €5.3 billion. The level of EBIT adjustments totaled a antagonistic €0.3 billion, including €308 cardinal affirmative effect from overseas speech mismatch and equilibrium expanse revaluation, of which minus €41 cardinal successful Q4, 28 cardinal related to nan A380 programme of which minus €5 cardinal successful Q4, minus €477 cardinal related to A400M of which €258 cardinal antagonistic successful Q4, minus €82 cardinal related to nan Aerostructures translator successful France and Germany, of which minus €34 cardinal successful Q4 and minus €79 cardinal of different costs, including compliance costs, of which minus €35 cardinal successful Q4.

Earnings per stock reported includes minus €250 cardinal of financial results. It chiefly reflects minus €232 cardinal of nett liking result, it besides includes a antagonistic effect from nan revaluation of financial instruments and a affirmative effect from nan revaluation of definite equity investments. The taxation complaint connected nan halfway business continues to beryllium astir 27%, nan effective taxation complaint for nett income is 19%, including a nett merchandise of deferred taxation plus impairments. The resulting nett income is €4.2 billion, pinch net per stock reported astatine €5.40.

Turning to our U.S. dollar vulnerability coverage, arsenic a reminder, nan forwards portfolio and nan euro conversions are presented altogether, some successful position of volumes and associated rates. The mark-to-market figures connected nan different hand, are only associated pinch nan Forward instruments. There’s nary mark-to-market associated pinch euro conversion deals, we person entered into. In fiscal twelvemonth 2022, $20.3 cardinal of forwards matured pinch associated EBIT effect and euro conversions realized astatine a planned complaint of 1.22 versus 1.21 successful fiscal twelvemonth 2021. This measurement includes $6.2 cardinal successful nan 4th fourth astatine a blended complaint of 1.23.

In fiscal twelvemonth 2022 besides implemented $16.4 cardinal of caller sum astatine a blended complaint of $116 cardinal of which €3.5 cardinal successful Q4 2022 astatine a complaint of 1.07 chiefly for nan years 2023 done 2025. As a result, our full U.S. dollar sum portfolio successful U.S. dollar stands astatine $93.9 cardinal pinch an mean lended complaint of 1.24 arsenic compared to $98.3 cardinal astatine 1.25 astatine nan extremity of 2021. Our portfolio is presently being adjusted by implementing immoderate rollovers to bespeak nan latest ramp-up trajectory and our transportation target for 2023.

Now let’s look astatine our rate improvement successful fiscal twelvemonth 2022. Our gross rate from operations of €5.5 cardinal chiefly reflects our EBIT adjusted. Our moving superior has decreased by €1.4 cardinal it includes a affirmative phasing effect from nan timing of receipts and payments, including PDPs and is supported by a beardown U.S. dollar. The A400M continued to measurement connected our free rate flow, but little truthful than fiscal twelvemonth 2021. Our fiscal twelvemonth ‘22 superior expenditures amounted to astir minus €2.5 cardinal versus minus €1.9 cardinal successful fiscal twelvemonth 2021. We expect our superior expenditures to somewhat summation successful 2023.

Free rate travel reported was positive €4.3 billion. It includes M&A activities for minus €210 cardinal chiefly reflected related to nan acquisition of ZF Luftfahrttechnik [indiscernible] while customer financing rate travel amounted to minus €146 million. You mightiness spot further usage of rate going forward, moreover though overall, nan craft financing situation remains coagulated pinch capable liquidity successful financial markets for our products. The 2021 dividend of €1.50 per stock aliases €1.2 cardinal successful full was paid successful Q2. On our pensions, we contributed €0.6 cardinal for nan afloat twelvemonth 2022. The nett pension shortage taking nan surplus successful our UK schemes into relationship stood astatine €2.9 cardinal arsenic of December 2022, a €4.2 cardinal simplification during nan people of 2022, chiefly driven by nan increases successful liking rates.

We’re presently benefiting from nan higher liking complaint situation to trim nan sensitivity of nan pension shortage to liking rates, but besides to different parameters specified arsenic inflation, in installments spreads and volatility successful equity markets. Our nett rate position stood astatine €9.4 cardinal arsenic of nan extremity of December 2022, and our liquidity position further strengthens to €31.6 billion. Looking backmost astatine nan past 3 years, we person managed to upwind aggregate challenges to our equilibrium sheet, including nan pandemic and nan DPA payments, closing nan twelvemonth 2022 pinch a nett rate position exceeding our nett pension shortage by €6.5 billion.

On that affirmative note, backmost to Guillaume.

Guillaume Faury

Thank you, Dominik. On to commercialized aircraft, successful 2022, we delivered 661 craft to 84 customers. Looking astatine nan business by craft family, connected 220, we delivered 53 aircraft, we proceed to ramp up and are still connected way for complaint of 14 that we envisaged by nan mediate of nan decade. On 320, we delivered 516 aircraft, of which 264 A321s. To lucifer supply, we person adapted nan ramp-up trajectory. We are now progressing toward a monthly accumulation complaint of 65 craft by nan extremity of 2024, and 75 successful 2026. We proceed to advancement connected nan crushed activity to unafraid complaint 75 and each our sites are now A321 capable, including our [indiscernible].

On nan XLR, we expect nan introduction into work to return spot successful Q2 2024, nary change. On widebody, we delivered 92 craft of which 32 A330s and 60 A350s, connected A330, we accrued our monthly accumulation complaint to astir 3% astatine nan extremity of 2022 arsenic per our plan, and we now target to scope complaint 4 successful 2024. On A350, we are now astatine a complaint of astir 6 craft per period successful bid to meet increasing request for widebody craft and aft a thorough feasibility appraisal pinch our suppliers, we person now decided to target a monthly accumulation complaint of 9 A350s, which we scheme to scope astatine nan extremity of 2025. We’re besides pleased to person reached an amicable colony pinch Qatar Airways, which will alteration america to move guardant and activity together arsenic partners again. This includes an statement connected position for nan transportation of 50 A321neos and 23 A350s.

Let’s look astatine Airbus commercialized financials for 2022. Revenues accrued by 15% year-on-year, chiefly reflecting a higher number of deliveries and nan strengthening of nan U.S. dollar. The EBIT adjusted accrued to €4.6 cardinal from €3.6 cardinal successful 2021 reflecting nan summation successful deliveries and supported by immoderate non-recurring elements, partially offset by a little favorable hedge complaint compared to 2021. Non-recurring elements included affirmative impacts from status obligations and compliance-related topics partially offset by nan effect resulting from world sanctions against Russia.

Looking astatine helicopters, successful 2022, we delivered 344 helicopters, 6 much than successful 2021. Revenues accrued 8% year-on-year to €7 billion, chiefly reflecting maturation successful services and a favorable operation successful programs. EBIT adjusted accrued by astir 20% year-on-year to €639 million, non-recurring elements, including nan affirmative effect related to status obligations. As a result, nan profit separator stood astatine 9.1% successful 2022. I’m pleased pinch nan coagulated capacity of nan section and nan beardown programme execution, good done helicopters.

And let’s complete our reappraisal of 2022 pinch Defense & Space. Revenues accrued 11% year-on-year, chiefly driven by higher measurement successful subject craft and Eurodrone. The alteration successful EBIT adjusted chiefly reflects nan impairments related to nan nonaccomplishment of 2 Pleiades Neo satellites successful December, arsenic Vegas and to nan delays connected Ariane 6 arsenic good arsenic nan effect of rising inflation. This is partially offset by higher measurement successful subject craft ramp up successful Eurodrone and a affirmative effect related to status applications booked successful Q1.

On nan A400M, we delivered 10 craft successful 2022. We proceed pinch improvement activities towards achieving nan revised capacity roadmap. Retrofit activities are progressing successful adjacent alignment pinch nan customer. In 2022, an update of nan statement alleged EAC estimated astatine completion has been performed and an further complaint of €4.5 cardinal recorded. This chiefly reflects updated assumptions including ostentation and risks related to nan remaining SOC3 contractual improvement milestones that stay to beryllium achieved. Risks stay connected nan explanation of method capabilities and associated costs connected craft operational reliability, connected costs reductions and connected securing export orders successful clip arsenic per nan revised baseline. Overall, for Defense & Space nan outer situation remained challenging, starring to disappointing results successful 2022, a batch of headwinds.

Turning to our guidance, and fto maine publication our guidance. As nan ground for its 2023 guidance, nan institution assumes nary further disruptions to nan world economy, aerial traffic, nan proviso chain, nan company’s soul operations and its expertise to present products and services. The company’s 2023 guidance is earlier M&A. On that basis, nan institution targets to execute successful 2023 astir 720 commercialized craft deliveries, an EBIT adjusted of astir €6 cardinal and free rate travel earlier M&A and customer financing of astir €3 billion.

This guidance reflects nan adjusted maturation trajectory of our commercialized craft business, taking into relationship nan phasing of pre-delivery payments nan investments we are making to hole our early and nan adverse operating situation we proceed to face. This now brings maine to our cardinal priorities, which, by nan way, haven’t changed. This year, much than ever, our main privilege is to ramp up commercialized craft production, including single-aisle craft arsenic we advancement towards complaint 75 now successful 2026.

Again, successful this adverse environment, we will intimately collaborate pinch our suppliers to lucifer our accumulation pinch supply. In parallel, we will proceed nan semipermanent translator of our company. That becomes much short-term and mid-term now to digitalize and decarbonize our processes, our products and our services, nan geopolitical disruptions of 2022. First and foremost, nan warfare astatine Europe’s doorstep, has intelligibly demonstrated nan request for a beardown and sovereign Europe, successful particular, successful defense and high-end technologies. We are proud of contributing to Europe’s ambition by taking a starring domiciled successful awesome defense programs, notably nan Eurodrone, nan [indiscernible] and nan early combat aerial strategy which each made important advancement past year. When it comes to sustainability, arsenic highlighted astatine our past Airbus summit, we endeavor to group nan sustainability schedule for nan aerospace sector. This is our priority. That’s my priority.

Our attraction is now to modulation together pinch a broader manufacture ecosystem ambitions to actions. Last year, we defined near-term simplification targets for Scope 1, Scope 2 and Scope 3 emissions. I’m happy to denote that our target person now been approved by nan SBTi, nan Science Based Targets initiative. This is an important milestone arsenic these objectives going guardant will power decision-making astatine each levels of our company. And I will show you much connected this taxable during our yearly property convention conscionable aft this call. So enactment tuned.

Last year, we besides made actual advancement connected our roadworthy representation to execute these objectives. Let maine mention immoderate of nan highlights. On SAF, sustainable aviation fuel. We continued our efforts to thrust nan accumulation and usage of SAF arsenic illustrated by our landmark business pinch Qantas and our caller MOU pinch Neste, 1 of nan largest SAF producers successful nan world. On hydrogen, we proceed to make judge our innovative technologies successful mentation for entering to work of a hydrogen powered craft by 2035 successful nan framework of our alleged ZEROe programme we announced nan improvement of a hydrogen-powered substance compartment engine. In parallel, we signed a business statement pinch CFM to trial a nonstop combustion motor fueled by hydrogen.

Having said that, successful nan short-term, decarbonizing aviation starts first by replacing thousands of older craft pinch our latest procreation fuel-efficient craft already enabling airlines to importantly trim their emissions and usage SAF successful ample quantities. Those craft are already certified for nan usage of 50% of SAF. Decarbonization is not only a challenge. It is, for us, a very important opportunity.

Before taking your questions, fto maine decorativeness pinch a fewer words astir Dominik, Dominik has been a existent pleasance and privilege to activity pinch you successful nan past 4 years. And I deliberation nan numbers of 2022 successful spite of each nan challenges, speak for nan very important and important publication you made to this institution and bottommost line, it’s been a existent pleasance to activity pinch you. So I wish you each nan champion successful your early occupation astatine SAP. But successful nan meantime, we will tally nan roadworthy shows together. This being said, a spot affectional astir it – sorry for that. I manus over, I guess, to you, Helene.

Helene Le Gorgeu

[Operator Instructions] So Melanie, please spell up and explicate nan process for nan participants.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The first mobility comes Daniela Costa from Goldman Sachs. Madam, please spell ahead.

Daniela Costa

Hi. Good morning. Thank you very overmuch for taking my question. I wanted to attraction connected nan free rate travel guidance pinch 2 related questions to that. And first one, if you could conscionable elaborate a small spot benignant of what are nan headwinds and nan tailwinds that dress up nan €3 cardinal this year, fixed it is simply a small spot beneath wherever nan marketplace was expecting is whether location are immoderate one-offs aliases thing that we should – that nan marketplace mightiness person forgotten there. And past relates somewhat related to that, but I deliberation successful nan past, you person mentioned that erstwhile you’ve reached nan business of nett rate perchance astir €10 cardinal that you would see other distribution to shareholders successful nan shape of perchance buyback, I wanted to understand if location were immoderate updates regarding that thinking, given, I guess, benignant of wherever your equilibrium expanse is now and nan rate you expect to make this twelvemonth benignant of mightiness put you successful that situation? Thank you.

Dominik Asam

Thank you, Daniela. Maybe I’ll person a measurement astatine nan headwinds connected free rate flow. I deliberation you ever person to look astatine this successful nan discourse besides of 2022. Recall that initially, we thought successful 2022, we will scope a little number. So we now exceeded nan first guidance by €1.2 billion. So we had a beardown tailwind location particularly connected statement assets, but besides very favorable timing of accounts payable. So, each of these 2 items accounted for a affirmative €3.3 cardinal successful 2022. And now you spot a small spot of a flip broadside successful that. So if you look astatine nan benignant of cumulative of nan 2 years, it’s really rather adjacent to nan rate conversion of one. And we instrumentality to our committedness that complete nan 5-year readying sky from 2022 done 2026, location will beryllium a rate conversion of 1 arsenic we’ve stated already connected nan Capital Markets Day. So that notoriously difficult and volatile plaything successful moving capital, of course, besides not made immoderate easier pinch nan benignant of deferral to nan correct of immoderate deliveries connected nan PDP side.

Guillaume Faury

Thank you, Dominik. And erstwhile it comes to nan – reaching nan €10 cardinal of nett cash, Well, we are astatine 9.4% successful nan first half of nan year, and location will beryllium nan costs of nan dividend. You spot what we expect for 2023 successful position of free rate flow. So I person to repetition what we said. I deliberation earlier past year, that’s a chat we expect to person much successful 2024 than 2023, and we will person a chat erstwhile we adjacent that bridge. But I’m happy of nan – of nan results of 2022 because that was a overmuch stronger free rate travel and nett rate position astatine nan extremity of nan twelvemonth than what we thought astatine nan very opening of nan year.

Daniela Costa

Very clear. Thank you very much.

Guillaume Faury

Thank you.

Operator

The adjacent mobility comes from Robert Stallard from Vertical Research. Sir, please spell ahead.

Robert Stallard

Thanks truthful much. Good morning.

Guillaume Faury

Good morning.

Robert Stallard

A mates of questions from me. First of all, Guillaume, connected your revised ramp target. Given each nan challenges that you’ve had successful 2022, really assured are you that you and your proviso concatenation tin now present connected this revised plan. And past secondly, location person been immoderate reports that it’s not conscionable a proviso concatenation that’s having immoderate challenges, but besides Airbus internally having immoderate process difficulties. So I wonderment if you could remark connected that arsenic well. Thank you.

Guillaume Faury

Yes. Good morning. Robert. So indeed, we had to update our ramp-up plan, taking nan lessons and conscionable facing nan difficult facts of nan proviso situation we’re in. In 2022, to beryllium clear, nan business has been mainly, if not solely, driven by nan very analyzable and bad proviso environment. So that’s really what we had to face. And we now I mean successful our target to present 720 by nan extremity of 2023, which intends we will person taken 2 years to do nan ramp-up we had anticipated successful 1 twelvemonth erstwhile we entered into 2022. So that’s not thing we like. But that’s nan fact, and we person built nan scheme for 2023 based connected nan facts and today’s business and each nan headwinds we spot successful nan proviso chain, and we judge this business should easiness progressively moving forward, but we person designed our ramp-up for 2023 based connected nan today’s business of supply, and therefore, we judge successful that trajectory, that’s a trajectory that is facing nan sadistic truth of nan very bad situation within.

On nan 2nd point, I don’t cognize precisely wherever things came from connected those reports. We request to present successful spite of nan adverse situation we’re in. And that’s fundamentally nan business we’re in. Yes, of course, we person to compensate a batch of nan proviso problems by adapting ourselves, by reorganizing erstwhile we person a situation present and location erstwhile we person suppliers of mini aliases very ample equipments that show america they won’t beryllium capable to present what they person planned successful a fixed quarter. So it’s a batch of adjustment work, and if nan problems are not needfully coming from soul operations, we person to find nan solutions internally. And – and that’s what I shared pinch my guidance earlier this year, and that’s possibly what triggered immoderate comments outside, but america conscionable facing nan truth that it’s a difficult environment. And therefore, location is simply a batch of activity to beryllium done to compensate, to beryllium imaginative and to find solutions to perpetually accommodate our accumulation plannings to nan situation that are popping up present and there. That’s what we’ve done successful 2022. We person ramped up by benignant of 50 craft much successful ‘22 than ‘21. And what we expect for 2023 is simply a spot of nan aforesaid kind. We are targeting 60 crossed more, a spot little than 60 compared to what we person done successful 2022. And we really judge that’s feasible successful nan existent environment. So it’s a spot of a agelong answer, but that’s astir apt nan astir important mobility erstwhile it comes to our guidance successful 2023.

Robert Stallard

That’s great. Thanks very much.

Operator

The adjacent mobility comes from Doug Harned from Bernstein. Sir, please spell ahead.

Doug Harned

Thank you. Good morning. I wanted to proceed connected nan proviso concatenation issues connected nan A320. First mobility is – if you look astatine past year, during overmuch of past year, engines appeared to beryllium nan main rumor pinch respect to accumulation and transportation delays connected nan A320 family. Our knowing is that shifted now and location is simply a much divers group of suppliers that whitethorn beryllium an rumor successful Europe. So nan first question, if you could thief america understand really you’re dealing pinch nan supplier situation correct now fixed that it whitethorn beryllium a small spot different than you saw for overmuch of past year. And nan 2nd mobility is that pinch precocious request for nan A220 family. We would presume that erstwhile you’ve sewage immoderate delays now that this pushes backmost nan timing of deliveries and whitethorn put benignant of you whitethorn person escalators that are stiff aliases immoderate penalties for customers immoderate compensation. Can you thief america understand if location is immoderate worldly rumor location pinch respect to margins tied into delays?

Guillaume Faury

Okay. So convey you. When it comes to nan proviso business successful 2022, we had so a batch of delays connected nan transportation of engines successful nan first half of nan twelvemonth pinch each motor manufacturers. And that has led america to revise nan accumulation readying respective times, and to person very difficult Q2 and Q3 successful position of deliveries arsenic we were really missing engines. In Q3, Q4, chiefly successful Q4, motor manufacturers came backmost to this revised planning. So we had stableness successful nan 2nd half of nan year. But we had issues crossed nan board. We had issues pinch nan proviso concatenation coming from nan deficiency of proviso of physics components very debased successful nan proviso chain, impacting a batch of our Tier 3, Tier 4 suppliers and therefore, indirectly america astatine a later shape pinch a batch of issues pinch onboarding workforce aft COVID uncovering nan skills and competencies, delaying nan ramp-up of a number of suppliers, we person issues pinch logistics astir nan world, proviso of earthy material, location is simply a agelong database of problems that impacted each nan proviso chain, not only motor makers. And that’s what led america to revise nan readying respective times successful nan twelvemonth to travel backmost to nan marketplace pinch a revised guidance doubly and nan number you saw astatine nan extremity of nan year. This has alternatively stabilized. I’m not saying nan proviso concatenation situation is better. I’m conscionable saying, I deliberation it has stopped degrading, and we deliberation it’s going to amended progressively moving forward, but we don’t count connected a complete betterment of nan proviso concatenation successful nan short-term, and we will proceed to look problems successful 2023. That’s what we person factored successful our guidance, including connected engine.

Yes, we person to very actively managed nan backlog erstwhile we look difficulties and challenges connected nan delivery. As you person seen, we now spot reaching complaint 65 by extremity of adjacent year, which is 1 twelvemonth later than what we were targeting erstwhile we entered into 2022. And we proceed to put successful CapEx each astir nan world to hole our accumulation systems for complaint 75, each A321 tin that’s happening now. We person nan opportunity to person a sojourn yesterday successful Toulouse connected nan caller A321 record successful nan Jean-Claude building, and this will beryllium achieved by 2026. So we proceed to do nan activity to ramp up to complaint 75 arsenic soon arsenic we can. We count connected nan proviso concatenation to present arsenic per our plans this year, and these are revised plans that make it much, overmuch easier, but location are changeless speech and chat pinch customers to replan and to beryllium capable to do it successful a measurement that useful for us. Maybe Dominik, you want to opportunity a fewer words connected nan matter.

Dominik Asam

Yes. I mean, of course, because of nan deferral, location are discussions, I mean nan cardinal question, which is to beryllium answered case-by-case is what is exclusively onshore we talked astir motor delays, which are really excusable delays. So this is nan portion of nan existent twelvemonth and a really focused point this twelvemonth to readjust nan callback that we person been asked by customers to re-phase large clip successful 2020 because of COVID and person accommodated these requests. And now we person to benignant of header pinch nan consequences connected nan proviso concatenation of nan COVID effect and nan Ukraine situation later on.

Guillaume Faury

Thank you, Dominik.

Doug Harned

Thank you.

Operator

The adjacent mobility comes from Olivier Brochet from Redburn. Sir, please spell ahead.

Olivier Brochet

Yes. Good morning, Guillaume. Good morning, Dominik. I person 2 questions. The first 1 connected nan Chinese last assembly line, nan deliveries were highly debased successful December and January. How do you deliberation of nan betterment path? And erstwhile do you expect a return to a normal business connected this one? And nan 2nd is connected nan 321 last assembly statement extensions that you mentioned is now being done. When do we person nan introduction successful work for nan various lines successful Mobile, successful Toulouse and Tianjin, please?

Guillaume Faury

So erstwhile it comes to Tianjin, you astir apt person successful mind that we person converted nan statement from A320 to a elastic A320, A321, we person stopped nan assembly statement for immoderate weeks to do – much than weeks, by nan way, a mates of months to do this conversion. So I’m not very meticulous successful my answer, but we had to do this modulation and this has led to immoderate disruptions. On top, we had immoderate COVID events erstwhile nan – I mean, nan zero COVID argumentation of China was lifted. So it’s been rather turbulent, but location are nary circumstantial rumor that we expect successful changing erstwhile it comes to deliveries. So that’s not thing that is captious connected my ain agenda. When it comes to ramping up nan A321 capacity successful nan caller files astir nan world, Mobil is moving guardant arsenic planned. I deliberation its first transportation scheme successful 2024, ‘25. I don’t person it apical of my mind. And erstwhile it comes to Toulouse, nan caller A321 record successful Toulouse will present its first aircraft, nan very first by extremity of this year. So we are moving guardant arsenic planned, and this will support nan capacity of accelerating nan ramp-up of nan A320, A321 family adjacent twelvemonth very significantly.

Olivier Brochet

Thank you.

Operator

The adjacent mobility comes from Chloe Lemarie from Jefferies. Madam, please spell ahead.

Chloe Lemarie

Yes. Good morning, convey you for taking my questions. I person a first 1 connected nan EBIT span from 2022 to 2023 because 2022 capacity reflected a number of one-offs. I’m reasoning of nan catch-up arsenic a affirmative headwind signaling successful Defense and Space. So could you shed a spot much ray connected nan cardinal moving portion going forward, notably craft contribution, costs ramp and inflation? Second question, is connected nan A350 ramp. It’s little measurement than [indiscernible], but arguably overmuch faster. So are location immoderate circumstantial unit points that you’re watching wrong nan proviso concatenation that could slow this, I’m reasoning of titanium, but possibly immoderate different products arsenic well? Thank you.

Dominik Asam

I will person a measurement astatine nan span from 2022 into 2023. So first of all, location is, of course, nan increments connected aircraft. And don’t hide that connected that increment, it’s not each benignant of high-margin A320. There is besides a very important increment from A220s. So that is important to return into account. There is simply a small spot of a step-up, but really marginal, I would say, very debased triple-digit cardinal connected finance successful nan future. The R&D has already reached a very precocious level arsenic ramp is already very costly successful ‘22. So that’s not a large delta, somewhat amended ForEx, a mates of 100 million, I’d say. You mentioned immoderate nonrecurring items we had, I think, of nan pension past work accommodation of €400 million, but location was besides €0.3 cardinal antagonistic connected Ukraine. We had €300 cardinal connected compliance and past location we get to spot a mates of 100 cardinal nonaccomplishment truthful that gives you a nett of minus €0.4 cardinal because nan nett was affirmative successful ‘22 and will move to zero adjacent year. And that beautiful overmuch gives you nan bridge. So this is really you tin rather easy span and location is, of course, each kinds of smaller puts and takes, but not worldly successful nan wide discourse se location – location is immoderate antagonistic ostentation impact, but we are trying to compensate that.

Guillaume Faury

When it comes to nan widebody ramp up, actually, erstwhile you look astatine our numbers, nan products wherever we person nan steepest ramp-up are nan 220 and nan widebody. But of course, successful volumes, nan A321 astir apt is nan 1 that dominates nan proviso concatenation agenda. As we say, erstwhile bitten doubly shy, we are very prudent connected nan widebody ramp up, and we spent a batch of clip pinch our proviso concatenation assessing nan capabilities, location are a number of captious items, mini to ample engines will beryllium thing we will beryllium monitoring very closely. And that’s thing that is astir apt connected nan captious path. But we person arsenic good a number of instrumentality and systems. When it comes to titanium, that’s thing we’re managing and location is nary measurement consequence arsenic agelong arsenic we tin proceed to source. So, that’s not thing that we judge is going to beryllium a large problem for this year. So again, yes, it’s still compact connected widebodies, a very beardown demand. That’s thing we saw coming already astatine nan opening of past year. You remember, I started to emblem nan truth that nan request for widebodies was really coming backmost and now we spot it successful nan bookings and successful each nan campaigns and therefore, we hole our ain accumulation strategy for this caller situation.

Chloe Lemarie

Thank you very much.

Operator

Your adjacent mobility comes from Tristan Sanson from BNP Paribas Exane. Sir, please spell ahead.

Tristan Sanson

Yes. Good greeting Guillaume. Good greeting Dominik. Thank you for taking my question. The first 1 would beryllium to regain connected nan guidance of nan ramp-up of craft production. Can you show america whether location are circumstantial actions that are being taken to reside nan issues that you faced successful Q3, Q4 successful position of monitoring of nan proviso concatenation aliases accrued power incentives, immoderate that would show a flimsy alteration successful your attack of these it difficulties, aliases does it look aforesaid arsenic past year? And nan 2nd mobility is simply a follow-up connected nan costs inflation. You described astatine nan Capital Market Day successful September of past year, really escalation was predicting complete time, nan activity from nan volatility of your costs guidelines person been that location could beryllium impermanent headwinds. How is it unfolding versus that scheme successful position of improvement of power remarks and salaries, you don’t really look to beryllium truthful stressed astir it for 2023, but a spot much granularity would beryllium rather interesting? Many thanks.

Guillaume Faury

Good greeting Tristan. Well, indeed, we are spending a batch of clip and efforts managing nan proviso concatenation situation. We person already a very precocious level of visibility and transparency erstwhile it comes to nan proviso chain, and it’s thing we person kept expanding and improving complete nan people of 2022. What we are improving arsenic good is nan expertise to expect and negociate situation overmuch faster than we did earlier, going heavy into nan proviso concatenation faster than, than we were utilized to do. That’s thing we person organized arsenic good pinch immoderate of our Tier 1 suppliers. So, that’s astir apt nan much collaborative and accelerated measurement of knowing nan situation, uncovering alternatives. We person besides invested successful nan applications and nan resilience of nan proviso chain. We will proceed to do this successful 2023. So, location is simply a agelong database of actions that we support moving and we person alleged lessons and workout of 2022 successful a very system measurement to support improving nan measurement we are managing this different caller and very adverse business of proviso concatenation that we person not knowledgeable successful nan past what decades probably. So, we are adapting to that situation, and we person besides adapted our ain planning. As you see, we are now anticipating to ramp up successful a overmuch slower measurement than what we had targeted opening of 2022. That’s besides our lessons learned of nan environment. Now arsenic we spot nan situation improving and we spot immoderate signs that this is happening, we will accommodate again and hole for ‘24 and ‘25. Dominik connected nan adjacent question.

Dominik Asam

Yes. Maybe connected nan ostentation topic, yes, location is really a negative, let’s say, a mates of 100 cardinal successful nan span from ‘22 to ‘23, that’s a net. And nan measurement it useful is we person a very important summation successful cost, but to immoderate degree, you tin offset it by our escalation clauses, which connected nan 1 hand, are capital, connected nan different hand, applied to nan full gross guidelines of commercial. And immoderate of nan inflation-related topics, particularly connected contracts, which are alleged estimated completion contracts person really been embarked already successful our financial statements successful 2022. So, this is why it’s still a load connected us. So, it’s not thing that you return easily, but it’s not a immense point successful our ‘22 to ‘23 bridge. But arsenic it will stay nan lawsuit successful compounds, which is of course, not our existent expectations fixed what’s happening successful nan market. But successful lawsuit of compounds, it tin become, of people much material, and this is what we proceed to person retired here.

Tristan Sanson

It’s very useful. Thank you for your comments.

Operator

Your adjacent mobility comes from Milene Kerner from Barclays. Madam, please spell ahead.

Milene Kerner

Yes. Hello. Thank you for taking my question. I person two, please. Guillaume, you pointed that you still expect challenges successful 2023, successful your view, really agelong will it return nan manufacture to beryllium backmost to levels of productivity you had successful 2018. And past my 2nd mobility is for Dominik, and I will echo what Guillaume said, it was a existent pleasance interacting pinch you complete nan years. My mobility is that you had adjacent to €24 cardinal of gross rate astatine nan extremity of December. What is nan use of nan rising liking rates situation connected your liking disbursal going forward?

Guillaume Faury

I will return nan first one. You are putting nan digit connected a difficult topic, which is nan productivity of industry. And actually, nan productivity coming is overmuch little to opportunity nan least, and overmuch little than what it was earlier COVID. We person still not recovered from COVID from that position and from galore angles, and that’s thing we are focusing very overmuch connected this year. It is coming from galore different sources. This very disruptive situation that is making america very inefficient, to beryllium honest. And that’s besides nan ample renewal of nan workforce connected jobs that are technical, and it takes clip to onboard group to find nan skills, but besides to train them and to person group backmost to what we knowledgeable earlier COVID successful position of highly skilled, highly trained manual and intelligence schemes of people. That’s thing that is possibly little worldly pinch nan ample OEMs, nan ample companies than it is successful nan proviso chain, nan smaller companies person a batch of difficulties to negociate that situation. We person still nan effect of lockdowns, teleworking, which that has been taken and not wholly recovered from. So, it’s a analyzable image successful position of productivity and ratio of ample business sectors. And that’s thing we are still recovering. So, your mobility of erstwhile will we beryllium backmost to 2018 levels of productivity, Honestly, I don’t know. That’s nan assemblage is out, but we want to activity difficult connected those topics because that’s very overmuch driving our performance. So, that’s a taxable which is precocious connected my ain individual schedule and nan 1 of my team, but it’s a sectorial issue. Dominik?

Dominik Asam

Interest rates, yes, you are correct successful mentioning that successful a definite way, higher liking rates purely connected nan benignant of treasury broadside are affirmative for us. You mentioned nan liking connected our ample rate balance, but don’t hide we besides person swapped immoderate enslaved liabilities. And truthful nan gross magnitude of €24 cardinal is not what you should look at. You person to deduct nan liabilities, we transportation nan financial liabilities and past besides successful nan €24 billion, location is, I deliberation €6 billion, €7 cardinal of enslaved portfolio is comparatively short, tenure of 3 years to 5 years, which is besides not one-to-one reacting, but location is simply a use there. But nan astir important use is really connected nan pension liability, wherever you person a very long-duration portfolio. And this is why complete nan past mates of years, you person seen that pension deficits going down to now €2.9 cardinal from formally €10 billion. We are now starting astatine higher liking rates to commencement hedging, and we person already made bully advancement successful our financial statements. You tin look astatine nan sensitivities of our pension shortage to liking rates, and you will spot it has already reduced. We are continuing that de-risking, and that’s really nan biggest lever we person connected nan liking complaint broadside successful nan treasury.

Milene Kerner

Thank you.

Operator

Your adjacent mobility comes from David Perry from JPMorgan. Sir, please spell ahead.

David Perry

Hi guys. Good morning. Guillaume and Dominik, bully luck successful your caller challenge. I m judge it won’t beryllium arsenic breathtaking arsenic nan aerospace [ph]. Two questions for you, please, Guillaume. You person fixed america transportation guidance 720 planes for 2023, but that leaves a overmuch bigger measurement up now to nan benignant of numbers you were aiming for successful ‘24 and ‘25 backmost astatine nan CMD. So, I conscionable wondered if you could talk a small spot astir really you spot nan travel and what gives you assurance of accelerating accumulation complete nan adjacent fewer years? And I conjecture related to that, nan 2nd portion is location is simply a statement successful nan property release, we talked astir nan longer word translator of nan company, but you haven’t really elaborated connected it successful your speech. So, possibly you could talk astir immoderate of nan plans you have, I deliberation nan 2 are linked probably. Thank you.

Guillaume Faury

Thank you, David. And I really for illustration your comments connected Dominik’s early challenges, I work together pinch you that location is thing comparable to aerospace. Yes, erstwhile it comes to nan much income constituent you make connected nan acceleration of nan ramp up moving forward. Well, actually, we person a target for 2023, which is 720 planes. That’s nan nonsubjective we had for past year. So basically, we person mislaid a twelvemonth connected moving retired of COVID-19 and reaccelerating. But erstwhile it comes to nan mid-term target, reaching complaint 65, and reaching complaint 75, we person pushed them retired besides by a twelvemonth because opening of past year, we said we wanted to scope complaint 65 by extremity of 2023. Now, we opportunity extremity of 2024. Basically, we person much reasons to judge that this is going to play retired appropriately arsenic we cognize wherever we are successful nan manufacturing of nan caller accumulation systems of nan caller funds. We person made advancement connected those funds. We person done nan aforesaid occupation pinch our suppliers and proviso chain. So, we person a overmuch amended knowing of what’s going to hap successful 2023, but besides successful 2024 and 2025. And therefore, this acceleration of nan ramp-up successful ‘24 compared to ‘23 is substantiated by a batch of activities we person completed pinch our suppliers. And we spot besides astatine their end, nan effect of nan finance they are making, nan recruitment, nan CapEx, they are spending connected preparing for that ramp up. That’s besides thing we person done pinch our widebody suppliers referring to nan mobility that was raised before. The semipermanent transformation, well, that’s fundamentally what we person done aliases what we person initiated past twelvemonth pinch nan reorganization of our accumulation system. That’s astir apt thing we are not discussing excessively overmuch astir those calls, but it’s a awesome for Airbus to person decided that aerostructures we make, that we deploy our integer solutions crossed nan board, including successful what we telephone now our Airbus Atlantic, Airbus Aerostructures and AI connected elaborate parts. And that’s nan activity we are doing connected nan ecosystem for nan integer and decarbonization transformation. That’s besides what we are doing connected each sustainable summation substance activities. You spot that we person been approved by SBTi connected our scope 1, scope 2 and scope 3 objectives. And that’s thing wherever we are moving very intimately pinch a batch of outer stakeholders to win successful this decarbonization of nan planes, but besides nan operations, including nan usage of those caller fuels. So, that whitethorn beryllium thing we could reside astatine a later stage, and our squad is very overmuch disposable to do this. We are driving a translator scheme that is relying connected 4 pillars, which are chiefly people, products, accumulation systems and what we telephone nan ecosystem, meaning each those players astir america that person a large effect aliases will person a large effect connected nan velocity astatine which we will decarbonize addition, and that’s some, I mean high-level factors of what I mean by driving nan much mid-term and semipermanent translator of our company.

David Perry

Okay. It’s helpful. Thank you and bully luck.

Operator

Your adjacent mobility comes from Harry Breach from Stifel. Sir, please spell ahead.

Harry Breach

Yes. Thank you for taking my mobility and bully greeting Guillaume, Dominik and Helene. Just my 2 questions, and please forgive maine if I missed thing earlier. Maybe Guillaume, successful position of income run activity, nan bid intake past twelvemonth was intelligibly very good, clearly, a important upturn. In position of nan level of activity, really do you spot it astatine nan infinitesimal successful position of nan level of liking and request retired location successful nan market? And past possibly one, possibly a small spot much for Dominik. Dominik, pinch defense and space, it’s go a small spot of a difficult business for america to effort to forecast from nan extracurricular of Airbus astir apt from nan wrong to past twelvemonth pinch nan effect of nan business pinch Russia, nan Pleiades charges, nan costs inflation, nan Ariane 6 delays. When Dominik, erstwhile tin we deliberation astir nan subject successful abstraction getting backmost to nan aged margins of astir 8%, 8.5%. Can we get possibly halfway backmost by this year? Should we deliberation astir that, aliases tin you springiness america immoderate thief to deliberation astir that? Thank you.

Guillaume Faury

Okay. Thank you for your questions. I will so fto Dominik reply nan absorbing 2nd one. I will return nan first 1 and nan first one, nan reply is rather easy. The marketplace is very dynamic. We person a batch of request for our products, a batch of ongoing campaigns, not only for widebodies and freighter, but arsenic good for nan single-aisle products. So, you will spot a batch happening this twelvemonth again. That conscionable highlights nan request to further accelerate connected our ramp up. That’s why we are putting truthful overmuch clip and power connected nan proviso chain, connected our ain investments astatine Airbus because nan request for nan request for nan merchandise is really not getting weaker moving forward. And we person started nan twelvemonth pinch this Tata India and occurrence some connected widebodies and azygous aisle. And I expect that we will proceed to spot 2023 playing retired connected nan aforesaid note. Dominik connected nan margins of defense and space?

Dominik Asam

I mean arsenic you person mentioned yourself, 2022 was a small spot of a halo [ph] for defense and abstraction pinch a batch of exogenous shocks that were really non-recurring successful nature, and they had to digest. So, I would say, of course, nan benignant of €3.4 cardinal return connected income successful 2022 needs to beryllium de-polluted to funded. And that intends location should be, let’s say, immoderate upside. We had a 6.8% successful 2021. I don’t deliberation we will retrieve that entirely, but location will beryllium a bully move backmost we expect successful 2023. Now, pinch regards to nan 8% aspiration, I person to say, that is simply a benignant of much semipermanent grinding target. So, it’s moving retired towards nan outer years of nan forecast sky of 5 years and nan slope astatine which you tin do that is really structural betterment grinding akin to nan slope you mightiness spot connected Helico, wherever you spot besides we person immoderate separator each year. So, don’t expect immoderate miracles. I deliberation location is simply a bully snapback opportunity successful ‘23 because of nan non-recurring quality of nan ‘22, not each of which was an adjustment, arsenic you mightiness person seen. But – and past location will beryllium much dense lifting to beryllium done complete respective years.

Guillaume Faury

Maybe if I whitethorn complement Dominik, I deliberation a batch of that business comes from nan measurement humanities contracts were system and we are moving difficult connected nan caller contracts to hole a different image for nan future. This will return clip to beryllium visible successful our numbers because those contracts are very semipermanent contracts. But erstwhile I deliberation of nan FCAS aliases nan Eurodrone, they are system successful a very different measurement to debar nan business we person today, wherever headwinds person a very nonstop and sadistic effect connected our numbers.

Harry Breach

Thank you some and champion of luck to Dominik.

Dominik Asam

Thanks.

Operator

Your adjacent mobility comes from Christophe Menard from Deutsche Bank. Sir, please spell ahead.

Christophe Menard

Yes. Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions and besides bully luck to Dominik and you caller role. The 2 questions, nan first 1 is connected nan free rate travel bridge, again, 2023, should we expect immoderate PDP down payments to person shifted to 2024, because you are successful effect, lowering nan number of astir apt expected deliveries you had successful mind initially. And also, still connected this, is immoderate type of colony rate costs included successful that span for 2023, aliases was it already successful 2022? And nan 2nd mobility is much connected nan translator of nan company. You mentioned a fewer elements. I was wondering whether you person thought besides aliases you are considering rather evidently a much location proviso concatenation going guardant because it’s thing that we person seen successful different sectors for illustration nan automotive aliases headdress equipment and astir apt a measurement to reside was, I mean nan issues that you had successful proviso concatenation successful our – that was past year.

Dominik Asam

Okay. May I commencement connected nan free rate flow. So, first, I deliberation location are 2 different buckets successful this chat pinch much operational chat astir nan phasing of PDPs versus nan rent. Of course, arsenic you person already seen successful 2021, erstwhile we displacement orders aliases deliveries to nan emergence is an effect connected PDP, nan celebrated €3.3 cardinal nett PDP travel successful statement assets and liabilities successful 2022 will not repeat, but will spell down. But we are not giving PDPs back. I deliberation you connote that we mightiness repay PDPs. It’s really a phasing mobility astir early PDPs payable. You mentioned 1 ineligible lawsuit here. I don’t want to remark connected immoderate circumstantial numbers because we person agreed confidentiality connected that. It is really – nan 1 point I tin say, it’s to beryllium paid successful ‘23, but I americium focusing much connected nan wide benignant of bucket of non-recurring items. You cognize location are different headwinds, impermanent headwinds successful free rate flow. We person mentioned before, location is still nan A400M to a definite degree. There is still immoderate agelong extremity worldly from business partners. And that’s besides a logic why successful 2023, we person a definite headwind, but it’s not nan awesome item. The awesome point is really from nan moving superior phasing of payments and receipts.

Guillaume Faury

On your mobility connected nan transformation, I deliberation we had nan opportunity already successful erstwhile calls past twelvemonth and galore interactions to explicate what we are doing successful position of resilience of our activities, and fundamentally de-risking nan proviso concatenation successful nan consciousness of aggregate sources of supply, reducing nan number of what we telephone azygous points of failure, and that leads to a much regionalization of nan proviso chain. So, we do much section for section and little world bargain and logistics. That’s thing that goes progressively and we don’t do it arsenic a policy, but much connected a case-by-case study of nan exposure. So, that leads to much regionalization Indeed, that’s nan consequence. That’s not nan purpose per se. And we don’t put it arsenic portion of nan translator connected what we telephone nan translator of nan institution that’s much nan measurement we tally nan business and nan measurement we perpetually accommodate to nan reality of nan world. But basically, yes, we do it, and that’s besides thing we tin explicate much successful detail. And you are correct successful saying that, that’s thing we spot successful industries, and that’s thing we spot besides successful galore companies, ample companies operating successful aerospace.

Christophe Menard

Thank you very much. That’s very clear. Thank you.

Operator

Your adjacent mobility is from Ian Douglas-Pennant from UBS. Sir, please spell ahead.

Ian Douglas-Pennant

Thanks for taking my mobility astatine nan end. I conscionable want to deliberation astir margins for a small bit, please, and specifically margins beyond 2023. Can you – I mean firstly, tin you springiness america immoderate directional commentary present aliases conscionable thing vague. But much successful detail, could you springiness america a sensitivity to ostentation here? If ostentation comes successful astatine 2% aliases 5% aliases 8%, tin you springiness america immoderate denotation of nan timing effect of really that mightiness effect your margins? And past secondly, connected nan widebody accumulation increases, tin you thief america deliberation astir nan marginal profitability of those programs arsenic they spell forward? My knowing is they are astir breakeven today. I mean possibly you could correct maine connected that and conscionable springiness a commentary connected really a 50% summation successful A350 accumulation volumes impacts profitability of that line? Thank you.

Dominik Asam

So connected inflation, I mentioned that connected our existent assumptions for ‘23, we spot a mates of 100 cardinal nett impact. And that’s a benignant of year-on-year deterioration. If you assumed a akin situation going forward, each twelvemonth would prime up that bid of magnitude that whitethorn beryllium compounding. I mean if you compound worldly it’s tending to turn exponentially. But it each depends connected nan ostentation itself successful nan market. And arsenic you spot successful nan superior markets for inflation-linked products, location is really successful anticipation of mean reversion backmost to levels of 2.5%. If we were connected specified a trajectory, ostentation would not beryllium a taxable for america to beryllium blunt. So, I dream that this is wherever we are going. And I cannot springiness you immoderate much details, but because, again, these ostentation caps are ace delicate topics successful commercialized debates pinch customers. In position of accumulation increases, feeding done to margin, yes, I tin corroborate that we really brought some widebody programs to a breakeven situation, which was a awesome occurrence and really dense lifting, but location is much upside coming. And we tin spot of course, a definite upside arsenic we ramp production. And nan different point I ever punctual group to do is we person rather immoderate volatility successful deliveries wide and intelligibly connected nan A220, location is not overmuch effect connected separator because they are still benignant of a zero publication separator much aliases less. But connected nan different programs, erstwhile you look astatine nan measurement nan deliveries alteration and past you look astatine nan benignant of EBIT and depollute for non-recurring ForEx. And if you past return averages, you get immoderate emotion of wherever these publication margins lie. But I don’t want to spell into specifications there, either because it’s besides a very delicate commercialized taxable pinch our customers and competitively.

Ian Douglas-Pennant

Thank you.

Helene Le Gorgeu

This closes our convention telephone for today. If you person immoderate further questions, please nonstop an email to Philippe Gossard aliases myself, and we will get backmost to you arsenic soon arsenic possible. Thank you and we are looking guardant to seeing you aliases speaking to you again very soon.

Guillaume Faury

Thank you, everyone. Have a bully day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, nan convention is now concluded and you whitethorn now disconnect your telephones. Thank you for joining and person a pleasant day. Goodbye.

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